Unarmed or Melee? (and other combat questions)

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Re: Unarmed or Melee? (and other combat questions)

Postby Necroliter » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:19 pm

Also from my experience weight in Opportunity Knock seems to have no effect on the skill itself. It increases opening by the fraction of already existing opening (40% at 1 card).

So if opening is 40% Knock will boost it by 16% and result in 56% opening.
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Re: Unarmed or Melee? (and other combat questions)

Postby MagicManICT » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:58 pm

What do you mean? At equal weight, if the target is at 40% opening, a 40% reduction should put it at a 64% opening if I'm doing the math right. To clarify it further, Chop creates a 15% opening, and at equal weight, would take that 40% to 49%.
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Re: Unarmed or Melee? (and other combat questions)

Postby HasseKebab » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:58 pm

Necroliter wrote:Also from my experience weight in Opportunity Knock seems to have no effect on the skill itself. It increases opening by the fraction of already existing opening (40% at 1 card).

So if opening is 40% Knock will boost it by 16% and result in 56% opening.


the amount of UA doesnt change the weight of the opp knock however the amount of stacks in it does change it, up to a maximum of 0.4*1.5. And your calculations are wrong you count openings like this (0.16*0.40=0.064) + 0.16 = 0.224 opening.

edit: nvm that last part i read your message wrong xd
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Re: Unarmed or Melee? (and other combat questions)

Postby Necroliter » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:44 am

MagicManICT wrote:What do you mean? At equal weight, if the target is at 40% opening, a 40% reduction should put it at a 64% opening if I'm doing the math right. To clarify it further, Chop creates a 15% opening, and at equal weight, would take that 40% to 49%.


From what i see OP-Knock does not create opening like other combat moves, in increases EXISTING part of the opening by 40%. It is really effective at pushing animals to near-100% opening. You punch few times, then 2-3 OP-knock and each of them is stronger than previous one (unlike regular attacks, which become weaker and weaker in terms of opening).

I was able to get 98% green on boar in just few punches + 3 OP-knocks.

TLDR:
OP-Knock does increase existing opening by 40%, NOT reduce protection (block) by 40% (like regular attacks).
And thus is not affected by UA, only by card count.
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