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Re: Grand List of Simple Questions

Postby FictionRyu » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:10 pm

So, the strangest thing happened...I had a few worms and I didn't need them, so I just dropped them and I went AFK for about five minutes or so..I return to the screen and on this perfectly flat piece of terrain (I had previously terra-formed it flat myself) I was standing on (where I had dropped the worms) the terrain had "grown a bump" so to speak. It's as though the worms dug into the ground and raised the terrain up in three spots. When I went and flattened it out I got three pieces of dirt (q23 metal shovel). I thought that was odd since that was the exact amount of worms I had dropped.

So, my question: Is that an intended thing?
I've never had that happen before..at least, not to my knowledge.
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Re: Grand List of Simple Questions

Postby Ysh » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:14 pm

FictionRyu wrote:So, the strangest thing happened...I had a few worms and I didn't need them, so I just dropped them and I went AFK for about five minutes or so..I return to the screen and on this perfectly flat piece of terrain (I had previously terra-formed it flat myself) I was standing on (where I had dropped the worms) the terrain had "grown a bump" so to speak. It's as though the worms dug into the ground and raised the terrain up in three spots. When I went and flattened it out I got three pieces of dirt (q23 metal shovel). I thought that was odd since that was the exact amount of worms I had dropped.

So, my question: Is that an intended thing?
I've never had that happen before..at least, not to my knowledge.

Worms count as dirt for most (all?) thing you can use dirt for. I think in Haven lore, worm is just animate dirt.
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Re: Grand List of Simple Questions

Postby FictionRyu » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:21 pm

Ysh wrote:
FictionRyu wrote:
So, the strangest thing happened...I had a few worms and I didn't need them, so I just dropped them and I went AFK for about five minutes or so..I return to the screen and on this perfectly flat piece of terrain (I had previously terra-formed it flat myself) I was standing on (where I had dropped the worms) the terrain had "grown a bump" so to speak. It's as though the worms dug into the ground and raised the terrain up in three spots. When I went and flattened it out I got three pieces of dirt (q23 metal shovel). I thought that was odd since that was the exact amount of worms I had dropped.

So, my question: Is that an intended thing?
I've never had that happen before..at least, not to my knowledge.

Worms count as dirt for most (all?) thing you can use dirt for. I think in Haven lore, worm is just animate dirt.

If I'm levelling a large area and I just leave the dirt on the ground instead of picking it up, does it get "absorbed" back into the ground?
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Re: Grand List of Simple Questions

Postby Ysh » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:35 pm

FictionRyu wrote:
Ysh wrote:
FictionRyu wrote:
So, the strangest thing happened...I had a few worms and I didn't need them, so I just dropped them and I went AFK for about five minutes or so..I return to the screen and on this perfectly flat piece of terrain (I had previously terra-formed it flat myself) I was standing on (where I had dropped the worms) the terrain had "grown a bump" so to speak. It's as though the worms dug into the ground and raised the terrain up in three spots. When I went and flattened it out I got three pieces of dirt (q23 metal shovel). I thought that was odd since that was the exact amount of worms I had dropped.

So, my question: Is that an intended thing?
I've never had that happen before..at least, not to my knowledge.

Worms count as dirt for most (all?) thing you can use dirt for. I think in Haven lore, worm is just animate dirt.

If I'm levelling a large area and I just leave the dirt on the ground instead of picking it up, does it get "absorbed" back into the ground?

Yes, with some exception. If ground can not be raise because dirt is on pavement or ground is already max height, it is just disappear. Otherwise it is going back to the soils from where it comes and raises land. You can use this one to destroy cliff by dropping many soil at its base.
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Re: Grand List of Simple Questions

Postby FictionRyu » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:51 pm

Ysh wrote:Yes, with some exception. If ground can not be raise because dirt is on pavement or ground is already max height, it is just disappear. Otherwise it is going back to the soils from where it comes and raises land. You can use this one to destroy cliff by dropping many soil at its base.
OHHHHHHHH ok! That explains so much of the troubles I've been having..thanks Ysh!
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Re: Grand List of Simple Questions

Postby FictionRyu » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:11 am

What FEPs do you get from roasted wildhorse?
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Re: Grand List of Simple Questions

Postby Aethyr » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:42 pm

Is there a way to effectively raise farming trough gilding? The only reliable source of farming bonuses is feather trinket and, starting with very low bonuses, it's hard to have something that give you more then ~ +10 farming (his quality is strictly related to crops q). I can not even aim to have double-gilded equip, because the only other gilding that you can use is Heartwood Leaves and I can only find q10 leaves.
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Re: Grand List of Simple Questions

Postby Granger » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:01 pm

Aethyr wrote:Is there a way to effectively raise farming trough gilding? The only reliable source of farming bonuses is feather trinket and, starting with very low bonuses, it's hard to have something that give you more then ~ +10 farming (his quality is strictly related to crops q). I can not even aim to have double-gilded equip, because the only other gilding that you can use is Heartwood Leaves and I can only find q10 leaves.


You can wear 2 shirts, 2 pants, hat, boots (and certainly something I forgot) at the same time, so you get at least 6x the bonus from both gildings. And when you come to the point that your crop would outgrow you then someone should already have visited the deeper levels for quality stone, chicken and fibers should be of higher quality -> redo the clothing with better q trinkets and put some more LP into farming.
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Re: Grand List of Simple Questions

Postby Aethyr » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:25 pm

Granger wrote:
Aethyr wrote:Is there a way to effectively raise farming trough gilding? The only reliable source of farming bonuses is feather trinket and, starting with very low bonuses, it's hard to have something that give you more then ~ +10 farming (his quality is strictly related to crops q). I can not even aim to have double-gilded equip, because the only other gilding that you can use is Heartwood Leaves and I can only find q10 leaves.


You can wear 2 shirts, 2 pants, hat, boots (and certainly something I forgot) at the same time, so you get at least 6x the bonus from both gildings. And when you come to the point that your crop would outgrow you then someone should already have visited the deeper levels for quality stone, chicken and fibers should be of higher quality -> redo the clothing with better q trinkets and put some more LP into farming.


I am at ~100 farming as now. Fiber are q100, chicken ~q60 (water capped) and stone q50 (I didn't find anything better), that's why my bonus is around +10 farming for gilding... I already re-did my equip (half of it, at least) but I have to spend a lot of materials for a really small bonus...
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Re: Grand List of Simple Questions

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:49 pm

This is the "wall of diminishing returns." You are now in a territory where you have a few options.

A) Be happy with what you have and settle in for the joy of the experience.

B) Focus on one or two areas and push those with the LP you earn. This will be your primary activity in the game. This is why so many of us encourage using alts. It's hard getting all the stats you need on one character to successfully craft, farm, hunt, and do whatever else you might need to do once you hit around 100-150 points in a skill.

C) Keep pushing boundaries and use every game mechanic possible to improve things for that small percentage margin. In the case of your water, find a well of decent quality, claim and wall it, and then use the hearth magic ability to keep raising quality as you build up XP. Water isn't a hard cap, it just slows things down, so keep pushing in other ways, too. Make some friends with the factions to see what they're willing to trade.

Way back in world 3, we didn't have super high quality metals naturally laying around, so one group found a way to push the quality super high (for the time). They repeatedly used a mechanic that would get the metal a bit higher each generation, and through a lot of trial and error (and probably botting), they ended up with metals that were about twice as good as anyone else's.
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