Lowest lvl str for mining hard metal?

[tiarali]

Without pickaxe, since the idea is to see what level a noob needs to raise str to to be able to get a pickaxe in the first place.

Thanks

[MagicManICT]

10? it really depends on the hardness node. You can get heavy earth and other low end iron ores easy without much STR or high quality tool as long as the hardness is low.

[tiarali]

Yes, but I'm sure I've read that different nodes have an inate hardness. I have a strength of 20 and am still finding many areas that I can't mine, and most of the places I can mine give coal or rock.

[TeckXKnight]

Yes, but I'm sure I've read that different nodes have an inate hardness. I have a strength of 20 and am still finding many areas that I can't mine, and most of the places I can mine give coal or rock.

Innate hardness is based on the level you're mining in if it's the same as it was in Legacy. Cave/Level 1 is still going to require 10 str minimum and otherwise be dictated by the hardness nodes in the area regardless of the stone that you're mining.

[Okocim]

I was mining Iron ochre with 13 STR.

[tiarali]

I was mining Iron ochre with 13 STR.

Thank you so much!

[Sevenless]

Yes, but I'm sure I've read that different nodes have an inate hardness. I have a strength of 20 and am still finding many areas that I can't mine, and most of the places I can mine give coal or rock.

Innate hardness is based on the level you're mining in if it's the same as it was in Legacy. Cave/Level 1 is still going to require 10 str minimum and otherwise be dictated by the hardness nodes in the area regardless of the stone that you're mining.

It's not that simple anymore. Each rock type has a base hardness now, and then the varience node system is applied. I'd like to guess deeper levels have higher base hardness, but based off prospecting I'm noticing different rock types beneath me. It's entirely possible that the increased hardness comes from the rock types that form a layer rather than an "invisible" hardness differential.

Beginner ores are Heavy earth and Ochre which both can be done with Q10 str10 if there isn't a nasty hardness node on it.

[Procne]

It's not that simple anymore. Each rock type has a base hardness now, and then the varience node system is applied. I'd like to guess deeper levels have higher base hardness, but based off prospecting I'm noticing different rock types beneath me. It's entirely possible that the increased hardness comes from the rock types that form a layer rather than an "invisible" hardness differential.

I think that's not true. I have noticed gradual change in hardness within the same rock layer.

Beginner ores are Heavy earth and Ochre which both can be done with Q10 str10 if there isn't a nasty hardness node on it.

I would also add that cave wall seems tobe harder than other rock and ore types. Usually after breaking the first cave wall tile the nearby tiles (which will have changed to some rock type) are easier to chip

[Sevenless]

It's not that simple anymore. Each rock type has a base hardness now, and then the varience node system is applied. I'd like to guess deeper levels have higher base hardness, but based off prospecting I'm noticing different rock types beneath me. It's entirely possible that the increased hardness comes from the rock types that form a layer rather than an "invisible" hardness differential.

I think that's not true. I have noticed gradual change in hardness within the same rock layer.

Beginner ores are Heavy earth and Ochre which both can be done with Q10 str10 if there isn't a nasty hardness node on it.

I would also add that cave wall seems tobe harder than other rock and ore types. Usually after breaking the first cave wall tile the nearby tiles (which will have changed to some rock type) are easier to chip

I'm paraphrasing an explanation from Jorb on that, not speculation. The varience hardness nodes still exist, but the base hardness is set by the rock type. I've noticed the cave wall thing too, not entirely sure what causes that.

[Biddas]

i have 78 str and feel so bad even with a pickaxe ,started with 10 q axe and 24 str and still was confusing why it's so hard .Probably my cave with really hardrocks...