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Metallurgic Skills

Postby pestilence2 » Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:52 am

I asked about this in the announcements thread, but still cant understand why it's not working. I have a character with a complete set of metallurgic skills. He dig iron ochre and then smelts it. But the result of smelting is totally same for character without metallurgic skills. How to get additional metal from these skills?

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Re: Metallurgic Skills

Postby Biddas » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:16 am

i think all this skills just making great chance to turn on wrought bars from bloom ,and higher chance to get ore when you digging from iron walls.About smelting i'm not sure ,i'm always getting random bars,with 3 smelters getting about 6-9 bars
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Re: Metallurgic Skills

Postby Okocim » Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:24 pm

I do think it boost smelting outcome a little,
Smelting ore mined by character with the skills gives on average more iron bars for me than before i bought the skills.
Before it was like ~1,5 iron bar per smelt, now it's ~2 iron bars.

And skills make huge difference when making wrought iron, before it was like 40% succes to get wrought from bloom, now it's like 80%.
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Re: Metallurgic Skills

Postby Sevenless » Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:18 pm

Who dug the ore? That's the character that applies the skill benefit, not who puts it in the smelter.
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Re: Metallurgic Skills

Postby proknah » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:40 pm

I thought skills only affect chance of getting ore when mining (not when smelting) and wrought iron. Isn't this right?
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Re: Metallurgic Skills

Postby Biddas » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:01 pm

proknah wrote:I thought skills only affect chance of getting ore when mining (not when smelting) and wrought iron. Isn't this right?


i think you right too ,but i should agree with previous reply about getting ore with high chance to smelt into bars .But who knows i'm gonna test with deep Artifice skill ...
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Re: Metallurgic Skills

Postby pestilence » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:07 pm

Sevenless wrote:Who dug the ore? That's the character that applies the skill benefit, not who puts it in the smelter.

Ore was mined by character with all skills.

proknah wrote:I thought skills only affect chance of getting ore when mining (not when smelting) and wrought iron. Isn't this right?

jorb wrote:We have implemented a plethora of new skills which, when you have all of them, increase the yields from treeplanting, forging wrought iron, unraveling silk cocoons, mining ores, and farming, to what they in Legacy were on +5 nature/industry personal beliefs respectively.


So it should increase yield of metal from smelter just like with +5 industry slider.
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Re: Metallurgic Skills

Postby LaserSaysPew » Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:28 am

A character with no skills has about 5% chance of Iron Ochre turning into Cast Iron bar.
A character with all the skills except for Artifice has 10% chance.
A character with Artifice has 15% chance(actually, I'm not sure about that, didn't mine much after taking this skill, 15% is what I got, mb higher, mb a bit lower)

But, considering 150k skill for farming gives you one shitty extra seed(srsly, 15 instead of 14 wth), Artifice should make your chance something around 10.5% instead of 10% without it. xD
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Re: Metallurgic Skills

Postby Sevenless » Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:37 am

pestilence wrote:Ore was mined by character with all skills.


That's why. You got the boosted results for both sets because who mines it is the only time the skills are applied for the chance for ore to produce a bar.
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Re: Metallurgic Skills

Postby pestilence » Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:43 am

Sevenless wrote:That's why. You got the boosted results for both sets because who mines it is the only time the skills are applied for the chance for ore to produce a bar.


The same results I received even before these skills have been added.
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