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Tree planting quality?

Postby bdew » Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:16 pm

So i started experimenting with tree planting.

I have ~25Q pots, water and soil with tables being around 12Q. I also have all nature skills (Including druidic rites).

Inspecting the trees that i planted they seem to be evenly distributed around 8-15Q (with the seeds being obviously 10, from wild trees).

So the old formula doesn't seem relevant anymore.

My working theory is that tree Q is random -2 to +5 of seed Q (same as farming) with table/soil/water/pot applying a softcap to that at some point (that i'm not hitting yet).

Anyone has any other insight or theories?
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Re: Tree planting quality?

Postby Sevenless » Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:22 pm

Considering I have S19 trees from first generation of planting, I'm gonna have to say I disagree on this one.

All of my E values range from 7-14. e10 pot, e40 water, e10 soil, e15 table, e10 seed.

Edit: To refine what I meant, there's definitely something included in the hardcap from the process. I was farming nodes specifically for substance when making those trees, but you're right the old formula seems completely wrong now.
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Re: Tree planting quality?

Postby bdew » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:09 pm

Hmm interesting.

In other news inspect is a godsend for tree breeding, can chop down the crappy ones right away.
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Re: Tree planting quality?

Postby Sevenless » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:31 pm

bdew wrote:Hmm interesting.

In other news inspect is a godsend for tree breeding, can chop down the crappy ones right away.


I'd keep em up personally. At least at first. Pretty much impossible to settle in the native biome for trees (I'm not sure it even exists naturally). So using crappy trees to spread that biome is pretty awesome.

Trees I planted a week ago are already being overtaken by trees I planted 2 days ago because I planted them on their native biome.
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Re: Tree planting quality?

Postby Giggidy » Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:41 pm

The quality of inputs (soil/water/pots/table) definitely has an effect. I've been using high purple Q water (41-18-17) and all of my trees tend towards purple significantly, with 90% being higher on purple by 3-5 quality per generation . My pots also very slightly tend towards purple (about 5 more q on average than the other two stats).
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Re: Tree planting quality?

Postby Anz » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:19 pm

Does harvesting from growing trees hurts their q/growth?
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Re: Tree planting quality?

Postby Turtlesir » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:38 pm

Anz wrote:Does harvesting from growing trees hurts their q/growth?

nay.
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Re: Tree planting quality?

Postby lordrio » Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:26 am

Sevenless wrote:
I'd keep em up personally. At least at first. Pretty much impossible to settle in the native biome for trees (I'm not sure it even exists naturally). So using crappy trees to spread that biome is pretty awesome.

Trees I planted a week ago are already being overtaken by trees I planted 2 days ago because I planted them on their native biome.


Unrelated to the topic, but how do you check the tree native biome? I see some same type tree grow in different types of plains and forest. Does that means all the biome it appear in is native? I don't have forestry yet so I can't check.
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Re: Tree planting quality?

Postby camobeast » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:43 am

bdew wrote:Hmm interesting.

In other news inspect is a godsend for tree breeding, can chop down the crappy ones right away.


you know that it only shows the trees current quality and that as a tree grows the quality increases right? I don't remember exactly but it is a % for example they might start at %50 of final quality then as they grows up in stages they increase up until the final grow stage
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Re: Tree planting quality?

Postby Sevenless » Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:20 pm

lordrio wrote:
Sevenless wrote:
I'd keep em up personally. At least at first. Pretty much impossible to settle in the native biome for trees (I'm not sure it even exists naturally). So using crappy trees to spread that biome is pretty awesome.

Trees I planted a week ago are already being overtaken by trees I planted 2 days ago because I planted them on their native biome.


Unrelated to the topic, but how do you check the tree native biome? I see some same type tree grow in different types of plains and forest. Does that means all the biome it appear in is native? I don't have forestry yet so I can't check.


Magicman posted that jorb stated trees use a "generic forest biome". I don't think I've actually ever seen it in game.

Safish bet to say you'll probably need to "grow" it yourself.
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