fighting stuff with UA

[Inzainia]

ok guys, i know a lot fo fighting info seems to be hush hush because of the way the game has pvp and whatnot, so im only asking for info on base animals. the pve side, which is the side i enjoy of the game.

for ants, ive found i need around 5-10 ua, and base or slightly above agi, but the more agi the better.
what im looking for is minimum safe requirements for the other animals. im sick of boat killing, and luring them to rivers and shooting them dead from the other side etc.. i want to start going toe to toe with them using ua.

so i have badger vest, leather armor, leather pants and leather boots bear cape and bear tooth amulet.
i have 35 ua and 32 agi 50str (im working both up over the next week, goal is to get both ua and agi to about 40 without leaving the other main stats behind.

what do i need to kill bats? foxes? mouflon? cows? boars? deer? (i did actually search the forums and couldn't find the info in a clear enough to understand manner)

ive found where people have put on the forums, the attacks they use, and i understand the cards and decks and combat discoveries etc.. i would just like a clear consensus on what ua/agi wearing the above items is a safe bet to practice working up to killling these things. for some reason i cant find the info on the forums.

thanks for any info and help guys, it is appreciated.

[maze]

1st stats

Agi>Con>Str>Charisma(I can bet they will add Charisma skill back into the game...but they are never good)

most if not all Mobs attack with a 4colour move what means you only really need to use 2 defence moves of any kind the rest you use for attacking.
you only really need to use punch and Chop on animles. other moves are to slow.

bats are easy to kill, they are about 20UA.

Foxs are easyer to kill. same thing as bats.

badgers are harder to kill since of their Agi.

Deer are semi hard to kill with 35ua. given they have about 60agi.
boars ara easy to kill with 30UA but you need to know their moves. tusk romp will rekt you if you hit it.

mouflon and cows are easy to kill, harder to tame. they use both yellow and green moves and randomly a blue red move.

[Inzainia]

good info ty sir,
another question since you referred me to use chop, i am trying for my first batch of wrought iron tonight in my new finery forge, to make a melee weapon, in hopes thats how to learn to make it. does chop go based on ua, or off the melee weapon, or am i understanding it wrong.
i played a lot of salem. there you had ua and melee, each were separate, so i assume they are here. i have read that melee isnt really implemented here yet, only chop. so really what im asking is 1)do i need a melee weapon made from wrought iron to even use chop? and 2) do i need to raise melee up in order for it to be useful?

[sabinati]

you can use a stone axe for chop, it doesn't do as much damage as a sword, but it does more than punches. wrought iron can make a sword, it is the worst sword, but it's more damage than an axe. chop uses melee combat for weight, so if the animal has no defense up, you are fine with only 1 melee, but it's nicer to be able to break the animal's defense with just chop.

[maze]

The dmg is based of the Weapon, the weight is based of your MC
Weight is used to break defense but does not extra damage.

steel sword q10 does about 224dmg avg.

Chop can be used Stone axe, Iron Axe, Weight sword, steel sword, B12.

you dont need MC. but you need to keep in mind that when using chop the Opt needs to have little to no defence bar up in green in order to do a chop.

[Inzainia]

outstanding information, thank you both very much!

[Raffeh]

Foxes are Badgers around 20 - 25 ua. Foxes are actually harder than badgers. you can kill them with just green defences.

Bats you can kill at 15 ua as long as you defend constantly and kill them quick enough because when they get 2 IP points, they CAN use a special attack which will probably give you a few knicks and knacks.

Boars are complicated you will need green and the yield ground move to defend against their red and blue attacks. I would suggest a sword for this opponent at around 50 ua. Watch its Tusk romp as stated above if your eager to punch it will hit you back much like parry. So just stop regen your defences constantly until it finishes.

Bears have high agi, you will probably need 80 agil to ensure you can get your moves up quick enough. UA can be around 70 to fend off their attacks with your defence bar.

Most of all remember not to get aggroed by multiple enemies especially bats. even if you can easily beat them. only way you would do this is if you have half decent armour being around 30 - 40 deflect value.

Good luck!

[shubla]

1st stats

Agi>Con>Str>Charisma(I can bet they will add Charisma skill back into the game...but they are never good)

most if not all Mobs attack with a 4colour move what means you only really need to use 2 defence moves of any kind the rest you use for attacking.
you only really need to use punch and Chop on animles. other moves are to slow.

bats are easy to kill, they are about 20UA.

Foxs are easyer to kill. same thing as bats.

badgers are harder to kill since of their Agi.

Deer are semi hard to kill with 35ua. given they have about 60agi.
boars ara easy to kill with 30UA but you need to know their moves. tusk romp will rekt you if you hit it.

mouflon and cows are easy to kill, harder to tame. they use both yellow and green moves and randomly a blue red move.

bats and foxes both need more than 10 agi. If you have lots of armor your agility is likely to be reduced. Dont try battle them with very low agi.

[InfernoI]

From what I understand, Lynxes have around 100 UA, hit like a mack truck, and you need about the same agi to fight them on equal footing. They also have around 400 HP.

[Inzainia]

thanks so much guys, so heres the days results.

killed about 4 foxes (about 4-5 more actually got away with the ridiculous flee speed) using the 3 basic defenses always, (lost a set of armor in the learning phase but only got actual damage once on the first fight)
killed about 6 bats today: 4 or so fled away.

i live in anarea where you have to go walkabout for atleast an hour to find a spot you can sprint on, so for me now, its all about figuring out WHEN i need to hold back and wait for that opening on chop to finish them. i am getting better per the 9 or so kills, but i still need to work in it.

all of this is mainly due to you guys and the information you have shared so i wanna take this time again to say thanks very much.

got my ua to 38, and agi(got me a lynx cape) to 40, 10-12 more pts in them and ill be after boars finally woot, then deer are in my radar!

i get dinged on occasion, even with several defenses up, so im guessing i still need more ua to prevent that, but i am assuming its the newness and me making small mistakes.
i just have learned i really hate the flee mechanic in the game. its a bit unfair imho. animals can be near death and crippled yet still fleee at max speed, through water/swamp and any terrain, yet we as players are gimped in all of them.

kinda makes the boat cheat, even more desirable., but im gonna stick with it and get good! lol

so thanks again, and keep the info coming, still need info on a good combat set for boars and deer, mouflon and cows. and what attacks they use and what to defend with. preciate the help folks!