[Question] Mining Hardness

[DaniAngione]

Hello there, fellow hearthlings! I come forth with another noob question:

Is there a way to tell how much STR I need to mine a wall?

Supposing the tool Q doesn't change (q10) and the message it gives is "Very much too hard", how many additional STR points I'd need, approx.? Is it possible to know?

Thanks in advance

[shubla]

Its relative.

[DaniAngione]

Its relative.

I know it is

but knowing my STR (38) and my tool quality (10) and the message being "very much too hard" and not just "too hard" or "you can't even scratch", there must be a window/range, no? Not asking for precise numbers, but as far as I know there's a formula that gives me my 'mining power' based on my STR and tool Q, and I just wanted to know approximately how much 'mining power' I'm lacking to get this message. Though relative, knowing all the info would allow someone who knows the different messages' meaning in numbers (like slightly too hard means you need like 5 more mining power, for example (I don't know) ) and the mining power formula to answer me Thing is, I don't know these and couldn't find current info on the wiki

[shubla]

Its relative.

I know it is

but knowing my STR (38) and my tool quality (10) and the message being "very much too hard" and not just "too hard" or "you can't even scratch", there must be a window/range, no? Not asking for precise numbers, but as far as I know there's a formula that gives me my 'mining power' based on my STR and tool Q, and I just wanted to know approximately how much 'mining power' I'm lacking to get this message. Though relative, knowing all the info would allow someone who knows the different messages' meaning in numbers (like slightly too hard means you need like 5 more mining power, for example (I don't know) ) and the mining power formula to answer me Thing is, I don't know these and couldn't find current info on the wiki

I doubt anyone knows that yet.

[DaniAngione]

Okay, then... Thanks

Guess I need to take down a bear then... lol

[Chiprel2]

from old wiki(http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Legacy:Mining)
"Messages that occur while mining (each message means 10-15 more Mining ability to mine):
You don't even manage to scratch that rock.
That rock is very much too hard for you to mine.
That rock is much too hard for you to mine.
That rock is slightly too hard for you to mine.
That rock is just slightly too hard for you to mine."

Mining ability was your str*tool quality.
For current world i would say it's more like 20-25 'mining ability' per message.


Just try to find another ore spot with rustroot or just with random cave digging. 60-100 str should let you mine most of the level 1 stuff although there are some places that I can't touch with 200+ str and q18 pick on lvl 1.(very rare though).

For easiest way of finding ore I would suggest getting a mapping tool that gives you the view of above the ground and cave tiles too.(usually it's manually set up to see cave overlay like this tool viewtopic.php?f=49&t=41026). Then you can just use the rustroot exctract to find the ore node and easily see where to you have to mine. (caves being overlayed with above ground map)

PS. The tool i linked is the one i was using for a long time although with latest updates it somehow got slower and slower for me. So it might be good idea to find some other mapping program. Just linked the one I used and which did its job nicely. If I recall right there are 3 or 4 mapping programs in the 'The Wizards' Tower' subforums.

Low str mining without a pickaxe might be a pain but we all kinda did that at start! When you find the ore you'll just have to smelt few bars for anvil, hammer and pickaxe. Then the metal shall come to you, much easier

[DaniAngione]

from old wiki(http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Legacy:Mining)
"Messages that occur while mining (each message means 10-15 more Mining ability to mine):
You don't even manage to scratch that rock.
That rock is very much too hard for you to mine.
That rock is much too hard for you to mine.
That rock is slightly too hard for you to mine.
That rock is just slightly too hard for you to mine."

Mining ability was your str*tool quality.
For current world i would say it's more like 20-25 'mining ability' per message.


Just try to find another ore spot with rustroot or just with random cave digging. 60-100 str should let you mine most of the level 1 stuff although there are some places that I can't touch with 200+ str and q18 pick on lvl 1.(very rare though).

For easiest way of finding ore I would suggest getting a mapping tool that gives you the view of above the ground and cave tiles too.(usually it's manually set up to see cave overlay like this tool viewtopic.php?f=49&t=41026). Then you can just use the rustroot exctract to find the ore node and easily see where to you have to mine. (caves being overlayed with above ground map)

PS. The tool i linked is the one i was using for a long time although with latest updates it somehow got slower and slower for me. So it might be good idea to find some other mapping program. Just linked the one I used and which did its job nicely. If I recall right there are 3 or 4 mapping programs in the 'The Wizards' Tower' subforums.

Low str mining without a pickaxe might be a pain but we all kinda did that at start! When you find the ore you'll just have to smelt few bars for anvil, hammer and pickaxe. Then the metal shall come to you, much easier

Thanks for all the tips

Yeah, I actually have a pickaxe but I found too little iron at start... so I only managed to get my anvil set and a pickaxe :/
I've been searching caves all around but all I could find was Tin... I actually have cupboards filled with tin bars (at least cave-ins won't hurt me lol) but now I'm looking for more iron... the only one I found so far is this 'very much too hard' node. I'll try the mapping thing you suggested, sounds like a solid plan, but I'm afraid that with all the prospecting I've done so far I won't find any other iron nodes close enough for chest/cart operations... So I guess I'll go for rogue TP to HF operations