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Need some clarification on aggro

Postby Drevar » Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:37 am

Was just killed by a couple of guys, while inside my claim, through which they had to pass a gate. So could someone tell me how they managed this? They were unknows, so didnt have any rights. They were on foot so weren't using any kind of mount exploit.

No idea how they managed to attack while inside, as they should have had the visitor Debuff.

Very annoying as this was my main, with farming over 100.
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Re: Need some clarification on aggro

Postby sabinati » Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:59 am

Did they aggro you while they were still outside?
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Re: Need some clarification on aggro

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:34 am

What sabinati is getting at is that combat states remain the same when getting the visitor tag, so it doesn't prevent them from continuing the attack. However, my understanding is that they shouldn't be able to murder you after crossing the gate and getting the visitor debuff. More information is needed to diagnose the situation.
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Re: Need some clarification on aggro

Postby Drevar » Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:38 am

I didn't see any combat popups until I was inside my gates, I didn't even see them at all on the minimap. They may well have aggro'd while I was outside, but I may have missed it. Kind of hard to miss the combat icons and junk almost dead center of screen though. They did, however continue to hit me once I was down and until I was dead which was well inside the gates/claim.

In any case, if someone hasn't attacked back, going into a protected area should protect them from being attacked. If the person attacked back, then yes, there should be no way to cheese out of a fight by running back onto your claim (Eve station docking games). Just the way I think it *should* be. I realize it isn't how it *is* atm.

*edit* Also wondering how they were even able to get inside at all. Only Green and Cyan have tresspassing permissions. Every other color has no permissions. Since trespassing (stepping on claimed land without permission) would leave a scent, and they would have had the visitor debuff they shouldn't even have been able to take a step past the gates, no?
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Re: Need some clarification on aggro

Postby lachlaan » Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:58 am

If they had criminal acts on and the claim went farther than the gate, then they'd already be tresspassing so could just keep going without the possibility to leave other scents. If the gate was off-claim, then I believe it shouldn't get him a visitor debuff, need confirmation though as I may have misunderstood the visitor buff patch.
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Re: Need some clarification on aggro

Postby jorb » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:16 pm

If they attacked you outside the gates they can pursue you in.
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