Getting Chop

[carson330]

For fucks sake, I enter every fight with every boar/ant I see and I still don't have chop. I have a sword, I make sure I have enough Ip to use chop, but still after 200 ants and 20 boars I'm having absolutely NO luck!

Why hast the rng forsaken me?

Could there be any other reasons why?

[VDZ]

It's condition-based, and nobody knows the conditions. Maybe you need to use different defenses. Maybe you need to use different attacks. Maybe your MC is too low. And so on, and so forth. Try something different and hope it works.

[Astarisk]

The condition is have enough IP and a weapon that chops (like an axe). Likewise, all other condition based moves are the same, be in a scenario where you could use the move, i.e have a shield, get 7 ip, etc. Discoveries also seem to vary by animals, but that isn't the issue here.

[evilboy666]

Its weird really, i created my char near the end of W8 to get to know the game and i remember i learned chop on that one. Like 10 ua 0 mc with axe. Keep trying i guess

[MagicManICT]

you need to use different defenses [or] attacks.

I'm going with this as my stab at the way the system works. Have absolutely no basis for it, though, other than the description jorb has given about it.

[carson330]

Finally got it off an Ant! I had watch it's moves, sidestep, shields up, punch, and take aim. I had to switch my defenses around to try to get it. That seemed to work.

[barra]

From my testing of combat discoveries:

1. Choose an animal that gives the appropriate discovery.
2. Make sure you're wielding the type of weapon needed by the move you're trying to discover.
3. Make sure you're satisfying the IP requirements of the move you're trying to discover. You may need more IP, but it's definitely connected.

When you begin combat, the game decides if you will see a discovery, and the longer the combat goes on the more likely it is to "reveal" it. This happens per combat not per animal, so if you've fought an animal for 10 or so moves without seeing a discovery you should disengage and try again (if possible).
Because discoveries are generated per combat, if you can trap a fleeing animal you can engage it over and over to get multiple discoveries. We used this to get our whole village cleave in the first couple of days.

For chop - equip stone axe, make sure your deck includes take aim. Aggro an ant, take aim once or twice, then rotate through all your defences a couple of times until a combat discovery pops up. If nothing appears, kill the ant and find another one. Beyond this, it's luck. You can't force a new move to appear, but if you satisfy the requirements you can make it one of the possible discoveries.

[bananza]

For chop - equip stone axe, make sure your deck includes take aim.

Got chop before getting take aim

[barra]

Got chop before getting take aim

Are you sure? I've gotten chop on many characters and never before take aim.

[Glorthan]

Got chop before getting take aim

Are you sure? I've gotten chop on many characters and never before take aim.

You can get ip with watch it's moves, it's just far less efficient than take aim for farming discoveries.