Mining - Tatics, food efficiency and cloths

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Mining - Tatics, food efficiency and cloths

Postby hery76 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:23 pm

Hello everyone, i'm on a quest to find silver/gold and therefore decided to strike the earth (Sevenless guide was very helpfull indeed) however, i feel like i'm missing something or not being efficient at all about how to mine and what to wear.

I've read that mining at level 4 is a good idea since we mine a level and prospect to see whats directly below or near us on level5.
I'm actually follow this design when mining at level4:

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I'm mining on a horse (can't afford to loose this toon to trolls), carrying a barrel full with water, using whatever stones and a bar of Cast iron for the metal ingredient.

As for wear abouts i'm using a bear cape for STR, Monocle for perception boost since i don't have much, forge rings, cuirass vapn and plate greaves for armor, and the other stuff is just garbage for this task.

even tho i have the complete list of gildings and cloth's affinity, i'm having a hard time choosing the best set and even tho we have resources, well dont want to waste stuff :s

One thing i-ve also noted is that energy drops pretty fast and since i-m also trying to get the 300% what food do you guys recomend that ups fast energy without waste much time to get the 300%?

So could you guys share any tips, tatics you may use and what you wear when mining?

We could make this topic something like a well informed tutorial, tips and others since i've searched and theres little info about this.

Thank you in advance o/
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Re: Mining - Tatics, food efficiency and cloths

Postby Grog » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:47 pm

Why not a tooth neclage?
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Re: Mining - Tatics, food efficiency and cloths

Postby hery76 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:00 pm

Grog wrote:Why not a tooth neclage?


Not any reason in particular, just thought of having a good per*surv for that glimmermoss :P
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Re: Mining - Tatics, food efficiency and cloths

Postby Kaios » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:04 pm

Grog wrote:Why not a tooth neclage?


This, use a bear tooth necklace instead of a monocle. If you're looking for even more strength bonus and are able to trade someone you could try trading for thanes rings, these give much more strength compared to the forge rings. Also you're better off throwing on a bat cape and spruce cap (or some other type of one slot hat) and putting strength gilds on that instead of using a bear cape. Last world and the beginning of this world my recommendation was to do exactly what you're doing now, tunnel on L4 and prospect L5. However, with the addition of caves and tunnels on all levels this changed things significantly.

From what I understand when you are prospecting a level below, it might still tell you there is something below even though it's actually a giant cavern below you which creates quite an issue while you're prospecting on L4. What I've been doing for a long time now is simply going straight to L5 and exploring the underground via caves and tunnels. Forget wasting tons of time and bars mining long ass tunnels and building a bunch of supports because what you should be doing is using these caves and tunnels to your advantage.

Depending on what I'm doing there are various ways I go about exploring the tunnels for ore. If I'm searching for quality nodes I will place a support to check a spot along the cave wall for its quality and determine the direction it raises towards and go check some distance away in another section of the cavern or tunnels. Continue process until you find something q100+ or higher and then proceed to tunnel towards its peak.

When you're looking for a particular ore type and aren't too concerned about the quality what I like to do is find a large cavern or long tunnel and place supports along the walls. Then mine along the wall all the way around the cavern or tunnel to reveal all of the ore, this tends to net you a large quantity of different ore types with varying qualities.

Regarding food, I just use steak & tubers when I'm trying to maintain my FEP bonus.
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Re: Mining - Tatics, food efficiency and cloths

Postby Hasta » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:17 pm

It's PER*EXP for glimmermoss, and you're either mining effectively or foraging for curios effectively. Just saying. It'll be more efficient to run a few caves through with all PERC gear you have, gather a few Glimmers, then put on your STR gear and go mining.

Regarding your gear: Bear Cape usually gives less STR compared to any hat + any 1-slot cape gilded with bear teeth. If you lack STR you'll probably want to lose armor and equip a full set of items gilded for STR. Since you hardly would have spare Rock Crystals to make 2-gild set, you won't have to waste resources for recycling; just make linen shirts and linen pants, 2 of each, and Bear-tooth them up. Bat cape instead of Bear cape fits there nicely and you don't have to worry about those guano-dropping pests.

Regarding mounted mining: I would avdise not to. If you dig up a troll you'll have a few seconds to react and run away while the troll flexes before aggroing you. If you have a horse, it may aggro right away at your horse and knock you off the horse's back (that may have been changed with one of latest patches, didn't have the troll to test yet). Then you'll have virtually no chance of survival. Also, if you get sloppy and cause a cave-in, your horse will be KO'ed for a good 12 hours.

Regarding food: it's fairly easy to distinguish high-energy foods. Creamy Cocks, Wilderness Wurst and such have a high energy output and are a pain to craft. Low-tier high-energy foods are, for example, Rats on Sticks. But all this is a moot point, because if you're going to spend some time mining (not just poking the walls for few stockpiles of ore to smelt; I mean proper mining for an hour or two) you will get your hunger level to "stuffed", unless you use salt or have access to nearly unlimited supply of the best damn energy foods there is. I'm guessing that's not the case. Eat Bear Bangers and drink Beer - get your "dwarf" on!
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Re: Mining - Tatics, food efficiency and cloths

Postby Grog » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:20 pm

Hm. He could still use the specs while walking. I was just suggesting to switch to a nec before mining.

Not everyone has such a perfectionistic approach as you have Hasta.
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Re: Mining - Tatics, food efficiency and cloths

Postby Hasta » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:25 pm

Grog wrote:Not everyone has such a perfectionistic approach as you have Hasta.

We either talking effective mining tactics here, or we chitchatting about what would kinda sorta be also good you know with what someone has at the moment and whatnot. In other words, perfectionistic approach is good for tutorials =)
Also, the inventory is small as it is with 2handed pickaxe, and every slot counts. If you're dragging a wardrobe around, some miner you are >.<
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Re: Mining - Tatics, food efficiency and cloths

Postby hery76 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:28 pm

I will follow your advices and switch the gear especially the bear cape and monocle, i'm actually mining for most of the time so its probably good to just focus on one task at a time.

Never thought of that possibility, and since we talked about aggroed Trolls, if i build a sign will the troll break it ? and what if it as barrel blocking the path?

Beer gives something ? O.o

I will prolly keep mining a straight line on L4 and prospecting L5, will see the results (bad till the moment, 5 hours wasted xb) and tomorrow will go doing what Kaios said to L5 (:
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Re: Mining - Tatics, food efficiency and cloths

Postby Hasta » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:31 pm

hery76 wrote:if i build a sign will the troll break it ? and what if it as barrel blocking the path?

The only way to block a troll's path is with a dead player's body, not decomposed yet so indesrtuctible. Construction signs, barrels, a fox would break those.
hery76 wrote: Beer gives something ? O.o

Beer increases your Sausage satiation effectiveness up to 125% if you drink enough. But resetting satiations and getting bonuses is a whole another matter and it's been discussed on this forum, you'll probably be able to find the info easy enough.
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Re: Mining - Tatics, food efficiency and cloths

Postby Grog » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:34 pm

Hasta wrote:Also, the inventory is small as it is with 2handed pickaxe, and every slot counts. If you're dragging a wardrobe around, some miner you are >.<

Inventory space is
not a problem if you use chests,
not a problem if you are in a group (having people carry stuff out),
not a problem if you have an appropriate smelter next to your favourite ore node (since you dont have to carry out factual stones).
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