About Realms

[Darbly]

I still cant figure out how these work so I have a couple questions if anyone knows:


1. Are Realms man made or natural?

2. What benefits do you get from being in a Realm?


Thank you in advance.

[Jacobian123]

We've been developing, and here's what's new...

Realms
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• Players may found Realms. Realms are political orders distinct from Villages.
• Realms radiate a claim, much like a Village. A Realm claim does not protect things beneath it in any way. Commiting crimes in a Realm leaves no scent, or anything like it, but rather...
• Any Experience points earned benath a Realm Claim, are also added to that Realm's authority. This is not a tax on the earner, but rather each point of experience earned within the Realm is also, additionally, added to the Realm's authority. It does not matter whether the earner is a member of the Realm or not.
• Realm claims are vast, and can be expanded easily through the construction of cheap Border Cairns.
• Border Cairns can be challenged by other Realms. Challenges cost 10000 Authority initially, increasing with each additional challenge your Realm places simultaneously, and leaves an "Ominous Smoke of War", which can be used to track down the challenger's Realm.
• Two RL hours after a Border Cairn has been challenged, it can be attacked and destroyed. Destroying a Cairn takes a fair amount of time ~30 minutes depending a bit on your strength and whatnot, and only one person at a time can attack the cairn. If you destroy a Border Cairn (which is not yours) your realm gains 5000 Authority.
• Realm Objects can, symmetrically, be attacked without challenge for two RL hours upon first being built.
• Realm Objects can be attacked without challenge when the Realm has less than 24 RL Hours worth of Auth Drain left.
• Coronation stones drain 500 Auth/RL Day
• Border Cairns drain 10 Auth/RL Day.
• Realm Members may toggle indication arrows pointing out all active challenges against the Realm's Border Cairns, and are also notified that there are active challenges against the Realm when logging in.
• Realms have a number of distinct abilities that their members can use, at a cost in Realm Authority.
• "From the Public Coffer": By drawing on the Public Coffers you can draw Experience Points from your Realm's Authority. You always gain 1000 Experience Points when using the ability, but the authority cost increases the more often the ability is used within the Realm. Over time the authority cost returns to normal. Cost: 2000 Authority, modified with increased use.
• "State Funeral": By granting a fallen Hearthling a State Funeral, his heirs will receive an additional 30% of his character values as inheritance. Cost: 50000 Authority.
• "Last-minute Diplomacy": With some Last-minute Diplomacy you can stall all pending challenges to your Realm's Border Cairns by one hour each. Cost: 5000 Authority per challenged Border Cairn.

New Implementations
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Added/Re-added "Lawspeaking", skill required to form Villages and Realms.
Added "Royal Crown", equipment. May only be worn by Kings.

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[InvaderDoom]

Yeah, the mechanic at the moment is extremely stupid.

You know, since my base is now under some realm with a stupid ass name, and every time I log in I have to to see it.

There should be a large distance, whereby someone cannot just "drop" a kingdom claim on someone else's place without first being part of a village or something. There's no reason that in order for me to get out from under it, I have to start my own Kingdom. I have no interest in starting my own Kingdom. So I'm just stuck under this morons Kingdom, giving them a bonus for my actions.

I've been pretty positive about Jorb & Loftars changes and additions, but this one is just seriously absurd. I'm seriously having the same feelings of back in the Salem days when MM tribe took over the whole place, charging a "protection" fee or else they killed players.

In my opinion, the realm extensions need to be FAR more expensive, these people just came over and claimed half a map in what felt like overnight. Rediculous.

[valynka]

I'm seriously having the same feelings of back in the Salem days when MM tribe took over the whole place, charging a "protection" fee or else they killed players.

How is this even remotely comparable? There's no downsides from being under a realm, and you might even get bonus on your stats

[InvaderDoom]

How is this even remotely comparable? There's no downsides from being under a realm, and you might even get bonus on your stats

Since you're apparently having some trouble reading in between the lines and understanding why I'm frustrated and pissed, allow me to elaborate. Follow along if you can, please.

You know, since my base is now under some realm with a stupid ass name, and every time I log in I have to to see it.

I didn't' want this. I didn't spend 40-60k LP to make my own claim, upkeep my base, and circa 80 hours creating and making my place what I wanted, to have to look at some dumbass name when I log in. I don't care about the benefits, I don't care about the stat gains, what I care about is that land that I worked for, That I created, and that I claimed, has now been placed unwillingly under a kingdom that has some ridiculous name attached to it that doesn't mean anything, and I don't even know who owns it.

Following along so far? Ok good, I hope so, let's continue.

I've been pretty positive about Jorb & Loftars changes and additions, but this one is just seriously absurd.

Let me elaborate this bit as well, I love SeaTribe, and I always have. It's why I spent countless hours helping new people learn Salem so that I could hope to aid in new players that would otherwise quit playing because they could not figure it out. I helped hundreds, close to a thousand people at the time(going by sub numbers), and all because I support Jorbtar and what they are trying to do. But analyze the logic on this mechanic.

• You make base.
• You Claim Base.
• You spent tons of time creating something beautiful, that you love, because your blood, sweat and tears went into it.
• You then log in one day to find that all of a sudden, it now says "Entering YourMomzATwaT"** every time you enter the game.
• You attempt to break kingdom extension, only to realize that it's absurdly hard to destroy, and even with 200+ str, and almost q100 pick, it's still nearly impossible.
• In the rushed effort to hopefully destroy this so you don't have to stare at it anymore, it dries.
• You are now unable to destroy this extension, because you "Lack Authority"
• You must now start your own kingdom, which is ridiculously expensive, and is otherwise impossible, since you just want to hermit with a couple friends.

Kind of understand the logic here? Against my will, I've been placed under a kingdom of people I don't know, don't care about, and otherwise hope they find their way in front of a bus. And I will roll on the floor laughing for hours at their spilled organs, and will bathe myself in their blood, because I hate you. and hope you burn in the very pits of hell, but I digress. It's not about the benefits, it's about the fact that someone can just come and plop a Kingdom claim on your shit, and there's nothing you can do about it, except start a Kingdom of your own and challenge it. That's fucking dumb. You should be able to at least Siege the motherfucker if it's within like 100 Tiles of your claim, or something.

I'm seriously having the same feelings of back in the Salem days when MM tribe took over the whole place, charging a "protection" fee or else they killed players.

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Ok, so here's the meat and potatoes of your original response. I hope you've been following along, or at least understand most of it. In case you might need some assistance, this Link might help.

It's not that being under a kingdom is a negative. Analogous to what MM Tribe was doing in Salem, Is that I've been forced under a Kingdom I do not wish to be under, against my will. My land has been forcibly changed and placed under a Kingdom, and by me playing the game, is aiding someone else. So essentially, I'm involuntarily being held under this Kingdom, until I start my own, or wait for someone near me to start their own, to challenge it. That's not the case for some people, I don't want to be in some big village full of political bullshit of he-said-she-said shit, I just want to play with a few friends, and have fun. I don't want to stare at someone else's Kingdom name every time I log on, and see it, and think "Oh hey, I earned some XP, there you go guys, have some authority."

I don't care about the stat benefits or any of that shit. It's the principle. I've worked to make my land and base look good, and be functional to progress. I don't want my land to be under the name of someone else's Kingdom. I don't wanna get roped up in someone else's drama should people start warring against one another. I like to just stay in my own little corner, and be by myself, creating something for myself. I hope in the next world, someone places a kingdom over 90% of the map, so the devs see just how dumb this is, and how it will adversely effect the population. Because yes, people do care about that kind of shit.

I'm sure that if some government came along and said, "Well, sorry SeaTribe, your company has now been liquidated into Activision, sorry about that. Your only way to be your own company again is to get bigger than EA, and start your own conglomeration. Until then, thank you for aiding our company image, and we appreciate your support." they wouldn't be too happy about it.

If someone wants to put forth the effort to break down my claim shield, fine. That's a design in the game and a risk you take. If someone sees me, and kills me, so be it. That's by design and a risk you take. But to just be able to come over to someones claim, and plop down a Kingdom flag, forcibly making you support their image, fuck that.

/rant

**This is not the name of the actual claim, names and references have been changed to express viewpoint, and provide clear-cut examples of the situation.

[Jacobian123]

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Entering AD

[valynka]

@InvaderDoom
what could possibly be the name of this place that's so bad, I'm really curious now? While I understand that you have put a lot of effort into your place, I just find it kinda silly that you'd be so upset over a name really, because thats what a realm is if you're not part of it. Your land and your home are still there, you're still free to live and keep expanding and playing however you want. If it actually was so bad, you'd start gathering the stuff to make a realm of your own instead of crying on forums