Questions about fighting animals and taming

[Flyrella]

So, I have read the beginner's guide. My UA is 41 and Agi is 34. I had a noob leather armor set (something like 29/30 or so)
I have fed an auroch with the clover and leashed it to the hitching post. I have waited for 24 h so it was in a fighting mode. I set up my fighting moves as 1 side step, 1 quick dodge, 1 jump and 2 punches. I attacked the auroch and clicked the olive button to yield. Then I pressed the buttons (1-5) but it didn't look like I do any damage and eventually the auroch knocked me down. So, am I missing something?

[zebratul]

Yes. The combat has been considerably changed since the release of Seven's guide.
You now have to add each combat effect up to 5 times to increase it's efficacy and spam attack moves to create Openings to push damage through.
So in order to actually tame the auroch, you'll need to keep spamming punches untill you get 30%+ Green Opening to start actually dealing damage, while keeping your own Openings low enough.

Keep in mind, most of the animals got their combat ratings buffed too. So the auroch might be too much for you atm. Train on ants first.

I might write up something comprehensive on that issue...

[tyrtix]

yes, you miss something: combat system works different now, see the last update in announcements section.

[Tammer]

It is possible to tame aurochs at low/mid levels. I've done it with 60 str/agi/con and 45 UA using bronze armour and a sword. At those levels though, you need alot of Yarrow and Blood Stern to heal between taming rounds.

I'd recommend getting bronze and fighting bats and foxes to get more combat moves. While you are working on it, farm and milk wild aurochs to make pumpkin pies, ring of brogdar, and crepe citrouille to get your STR/AGI up. Once you get bronze you'll be able to hunt boars and make sausage too to speed things up.

Alternatively, start with taming mouflon. They're easier.

[Flyrella]

right, I see, thank you all
so I need to punch lots of times before I do any damage? what is about the defense moves?

I will train on ants indeed, but I killed them at ua and agi 10 with no armor even though they made damage to me something like 30 per ant.

[tyrtix]

right, I see, thank you all
so I need to punch lots of times before I do any damage? what is about the defense moves?

I will train on ants indeed, but I killed them at ua and agi 10 with no armor even though they made damage to me something like 30 per ant.

Actual combat system have some form of armor penetration, and ants do a kind of damage that goes right to your hhp (even if it's easy to heal with some yarrow). Defense moves reduces the openings that animals widens with attacks (the same you do on them): with ants you have less needs of keeping your openings low, on other animals it may be a decent choice to move a bit away and then reduce openings with defense, though this system makes easier to spam attacks, especially with combat meditation active, so you simply kill the creature BEFORE it widens your openings too much.

If you have at least 30 UA and 40 agi, i suggest to you to put on some armor (remember that shield counts too) and go for bats: they are easier than ants 'cause they don't have that nasty acid attack, and you'll learn much more moves.

[Flyrella]

right, I see, thank you all
so I need to punch lots of times before I do any damage? what is about the defense moves?

I will train on ants indeed, but I killed them at ua and agi 10 with no armor even though they made damage to me something like 30 per ant.

Actual combat system have some form of armor penetration, and ants do a kind of damage that goes right to your hhp (even if it's easy to heal with some yarrow). Defense moves reduces the openings that animals widens with attacks (the same you do on them): with ants you have less needs of keeping your openings low, on other animals it may be a decent choice to move a bit away and then reduce openings with defense, though this system makes easier to spam attacks, especially with combat meditation active, so you simply kill the creature BEFORE it widens your openings too much.

If you have at least 30 UA and 40 agi, i suggest to you to put on some armor (remember that shield counts too) and go for bats: they are easier than ants 'cause they don't have that nasty acid attack, and you'll learn much more moves.

Thank you

I tried to fight bats, but they fly away from me. When they settle I try to attack but then they just fly away so I am not able to do any damage when I attack for the second time. I repeated that like 5 times and it never worked.

[tyrtix]

when they stop from fleeing, before attaching them again, set your speed the slowest possible, try to get the nearest to them, then set speed again to 3 or 4, so when you start fight, you follow them fast, and hitting them one time should be enough to kill them.

[Flyrella]

when they stop from fleeing, before attaching them again, set your speed the slowest possible, try to get the nearest to them, then set speed again to 3 or 4, so when you start fight, you follow them fast, and hitting them one time should be enough to kill them.

ok, thank you again
I'll try that when I recover my hp

[MagicManICT]

Is there a "good" YouTube or other video posting site video on these subjects? I did find one from a non (or not very good) English speaking person (no disrespect) but it was not very informative and there's something about seeing it done and explained in a step-by-step manner that reading a few post's can't cover.

I do understand that actually "doing it" is a good way to learn but after my surprising victory over a Bat the other day (with no armor, low skills, 12UA & 20 STR/Agil/Con) I'm sort of perplexed and wary about how things work in a more detailed way. I'm not sure if I "lucked out" with the order of my school or "lucked out" with how I applied the moves or if maybe someone had hurt the Bat just before my battle and it was already wounded.

One other thing, is ranged still able to one-shot animals with hi Marksmanship and good Bow/Sling? If so will you still get the new combat moves if you kill them with ranged instead of UA or Melee?