Unarmed or Melee? (and other combat questions)

[Beezer12Washingbeard]

I see people talk a lot about raising unarmed, but not a lot of folks talking about raising melee. Is there a particular reason to specialize in unarmed combat over melee?

Also, I see 3 numbers when I get hit. What do those mean?

[Ozzy123]

only ua in this combat system
or archery if you have bots

[MrPunchers]

Personally I run mc sets cause chop*1000 is easy to kill bears and such with, in Valhalla I dropped some people with my mc set, too. UA is still the meta though

[Kaios]

Relevant thread, I'll also quote you my response in that regard:

I'll answer your question with a question: Why bother raising melee combat when you can do the same damage with 1 mc as you can do with 500?

The buff to shield up is nice but still not worth it enough to raise mc over ua, to arms is worthless and the red opening added through parry is negligible. Combat med and oak stance are both better choices than any of the mc weighted maneuvers unless you're restricted to using only a sword and shield I suppose. You're using entirely unarmed moves to build your opponents openings and opp knock is unarmed weight as well.

People do raise mc up to a point but you're way better off with more unarmed at the moment.

[azrid]

For a fresh hearthling with nothing I would always go for mc.
Getting a bronze sword and gilding all your clothes with a buckle makes you able to kill large animals quick.
Very straight forward just press chop.

[Beezer12Washingbeard]

Got it, thanks! So based on what I've seen/read so far, it sounds like I'm using a decent general strategy for right now (esp on this fresh Hearthling):

* Raise UA enough (~10 base) to punch ants/boatpunch boars to death til I get chop
* Get bronze sword ASAP (luckily inherited from my previous toon)
* Raise MC while I hunt via boatchopping (prolly do this for a while)
* Upgrade weapon as reasonable (Hirdsman's sword -> B12)
* Once MC is in the 50-75 range, start upping UA
* After a certain point, switch back to UA as primary form of combat

Sound about right?

[Kaios]

* Raise UA enough (~10 base) to punch ants/boatpunch boars to death til I get chop
* Get bronze sword ASAP (luckily inherited from my previous toon)
* Raise MC while I hunt via boatchopping (prolly do this for a while)
* Upgrade weapon as reasonable (Hirdsman's sword -> B12)
* Once MC is in the 50-75 range, start upping UA
* After a certain point, switch back to UA as primary form of combat

Sound about right?

looks good to me, although in a way UA is never really your primary form of combat since your damage dealing attacks are still going to be the MC attacks it's mostly needed in terms of building openings

[Ozzy123]

UA is always your primary form of combat, there is no need to get your mc higher than 1 tbh

If someone can prove me that getting more than 1 mc will be better than just rushing UA then I'll jump of WTC

[Beezer12Washingbeard]

looks good to me, although in a way UA is never really your primary form of combat since your damage dealing attacks are still going to be the MC attacks it's mostly needed in terms of building openings

Ah hah, that's the piece I was missing! Thanks, that cleared up quite a bit.

Also still wondering about this, I haven't seen anything explaining it anywhere:

Also, I see 3 numbers when I get hit. What do those mean?

[Ozzy123]

Also still wondering about this, I haven't seen anything explaining it anywhere:

Also, I see 3 numbers when I get hit. What do those mean?

SHp dmg hhp dmg and armor dmg