What's needed to run the game smoothly?

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What's needed to run the game smoothly?

Postby Jaemes » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:05 pm

Recently got my girlfriend to play haven with me, but she can only play with all graphic options in low or turned off. She isnt normaly a gamer and plays very few games especially on pc, so I woundering what is usually limiting how well haven run? Is it ram, cpu or gpu? Thanks for answers!
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Re: What's needed to run the game smoothly?

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:57 pm

CPU and GPU generally. Haven can and does run on under 2GB RAM unless you are running a modded client that adds in a lot of bells and whistles. On the other side of that coin, some of the clients have helped improve performance a bit by turning off some of the features that are coded into the client without normal switches to turn off. I'm not as familiar with what's available. Check The Wizards' Tower.

One of the current dev projects is improving performance. Some of the older hardware (anything before ~2012) is struggling to keep up, if even playable. The biggest issue seems to be the discount Intel processors running integrated graphics, though there have been complaints from people running newer mid to high range hardware that are still having issues, too.

If you don't mind sharing specs, there might be some suggestions on what you can do or what mods to use to help.
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Re: What's needed to run the game smoothly?

Postby Jaemes » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:06 pm

Ah okej, the specs are,
CPU: AMD A4-6300 APU 3.70GHz
GPU: AMD Radeon R7 360
Win7 64-bit with 4GB RAM.

Thats the info I could get for it seems as the pc was bought from a store pre built, and it seems ifo from them is lacking so I hope it helps anyway.
also we are using the Amber client and havent checked how hard it hits the system as Im not used to feeling any impact so I didnt think of that.
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Re: What's needed to run the game smoothly?

Postby vatas » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:41 pm

Wasn't there long-standing issue where Java would insist on using the integrated circuit on motherboard instead of the proper Video Card? This could throttle the performance of even the most high-end PCs.
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Re: What's needed to run the game smoothly?

Postby Jaemes » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:53 pm

There is? Then Im gonna take a look and disable the gpu on the motherboard and se what happens.
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Re: What's needed to run the game smoothly?

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:57 pm

The processor you're using isn't even a generation older than the one I am (AMD A6), and you've already upgraded to an R7 graphics card. There might be some performance options in Catalyst you can enable to help speed up performance over quality. I'm not sure how much effect they have on OpenGL, though.

I will say I only run about 12-20 fps depending on where I'm at and what I'm doing with the standard client. (i've not bothered clocking performance with Amber.) I don't keep a big farm and base, though, and one of the complaints I hear from people are a lot of crops, animals, or players on screen tend to have the biggest performance impacts.

Might try a couple of rendering options that don't have checkboxes to turn off or on. You have to use console commands to enable them. See the Console Commands page on the RoB Wiki. I was thinking possibly the water one could help, or maybe one of the alternate rendering methods, but my experience is that they aren't any better performance. They are more for those that have issues with the standard rendering pipeline, such as some of the older GPUs (DX 9, 10).

I was thinking there were some tile and crop options that simplified those graphics to decrease load on the computer. I'm not sure if they are built into Amber or not, and not finding them in the forums. Hopefully others will have some ideas or suggestions for you.

vatas wrote:Wasn't there long-standing issue where Java would insist on using the integrated circuit on motherboard instead of the proper Video Card? This could throttle the performance of even the most high-end PCs.

This is just an issue with Nvidia and their driver options. Though you do make a point of double checking that the upgraded video card is installed correctly. In general, if it's not a notebook, integrated GPUs are on the northbridge controller, and expansion cards are on southbridge, so there's no way for this to even be possible and have functioning graphics.

Jaemes wrote:There is? Then Im gonna take a look and disable the gpu on the motherboard and se what happens.

Unless you're using it for dual monitor support, I'm not aware that the A6 is compatible with Mantle or DX12 for multicore graphics processing*, so there's no reason to even have it enabled. The last time I upgraded an AMD Ax series CPU, I had to disable it for graphics to even function properly.

*I believe the A10 is the last of that series that is compatible, but it's been a while since I looked it up.
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Re: What's needed to run the game smoothly?

Postby Jaemes » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:07 pm

We're living in a corner of the world with not that many settlements that are active, but the game almost stuttered to a halt as soon as she loaded into the game with game sounds also stuttering. Thats why I thought her specs was not up to the game.
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Re: What's needed to run the game smoothly?

Postby Granger » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:07 pm

Sound stuttering is a different issue. There is a console command to increase the sound buffer.

FPS wise the biggest impacts are garbage stockpile and bee skep animations, flavor objects and large fields are also bad. Amber has options to disable them all.
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Re: What's needed to run the game smoothly?

Postby shubla » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:11 am

Granger wrote:FPS wise the biggest impacts are garbage stockpile and bee skep animations

Not really.

Bobbing of the characters, animals and their equipments takes a lot of cpu time. Purus pasta has an option to disable them, which drastically increases fps.
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