How rare are Trolls with cave hermit credo

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How rare are Trolls with cave hermit credo

Postby MattSrsen » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:05 pm

I have mined over 2500 blocks in the 5th level yet no trolls are to be seen, am i just unlucky or does the cave hermit bonus come after youve finished the whole credo?
im level 4 on the credo.
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Re: How rare are Trolls with cave hermit credo

Postby linkfanpc » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:31 pm

Just unlucky as far as i can tell.

The increased chance of mining out trolls is the Level 1 perk, therefor you would only need to complete Level 1 (And advance to Level 2) in order to get the perk.

EDIT: Remember that since the perk that makes trolls no longer attack you is the Level 5 perk, so you need to complete the entire credo to get it, so if you mine out any trolls they will aggro you.
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Re: How rare are Trolls with cave hermit credo

Postby MagicManICT » Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:51 pm

They're just that rare to begin with. If the odds are 1:5000, doubling the chance makes it 1:2500. Note it merely says "increased," but not by the amount, and we're not entirely sure on the base chance at L5, just that it's low.

I've heard tales told of people mining out 10k tiles (before the credos) and not getting a troll.
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Re: How rare are Trolls with cave hermit credo

Postby MattSrsen » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:06 pm

I guess I'll keep mining then, thank you both for the help.
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Re: How rare are Trolls with cave hermit credo

Postby AntiBlitz » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:14 pm

MagicManICT wrote:They're just that rare to begin with. If the odds are 1:5000, doubling the chance makes it 1:2500. Note it merely says "increased," but not by the amount, and we're not entirely sure on the base chance at L5, just that it's low.

I've heard tales told of people mining out 10k tiles (before the credos) and not getting a troll.


ive literally never mined out a troll.....
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Re: How rare are Trolls with cave hermit credo

Postby shubla » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:24 pm

Trolls should be buffed so they would be too OP for people to want them to spawn.
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Re: How rare are Trolls with cave hermit credo

Postby Granger » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:19 pm

shubla wrote:Trolls should be buffed so they would be too OP for people to want them to spawn.

Or character progression be limited, leading to the same result - but one that can't be out-eaten/studied/spiraled.
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Re: How rare are Trolls with cave hermit credo

Postby shubla » Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:02 pm

Granger wrote:
shubla wrote:Trolls should be buffed so they would be too OP for people to want them to spawn.

Or character progression be limited, leading to the same result - but one that can't be out-eaten/studied/spiraled.

What would one do when he has reached the cap where character can not get any better?
- Quit the game

Endless grind with some rewards is needed to hook people in.
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Re: How rare are Trolls with cave hermit credo

Postby Fostik » Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:03 pm

Had same experience with mining trolls by credo.
Only thing i can say for topic starter - dont ask or think how to mine em, just keep mining.
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Re: How rare are Trolls with cave hermit credo

Postby Enjoyment » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:10 am

MagicManICT wrote:Note it merely says "increased," but not by the amount

There is something like JCS (jorb caunting system) in credos therefore in which:
"slightly" means 10%
withouth any addition means 20-25%
and "greatly" means up to 50%
But thats just some observation and cannot be taken as axiome.
As for Trolls - I mined out 2 of them already (with credo) while wasn't so "lucky" before. And the amount of mined tiles is like 10.000.000:1.000, so just too many RNG to count.
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