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Tips for mining?

Postby Kinglazy » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:01 pm

I am about to start a mine and comence mining as a hermit. Mainly seeking enough metals to make metal farming equipment and buildings.

I tried rustroot but there is only stones under my base, should I make a mine anyway?

Anything that could help a newbie to start mining is appreciated
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Re: Tips for mining?

Postby sMartins » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:08 pm

Kinglazy wrote:I tried rustroot but there is only stones under my base, should I make a mine anyway?


Sure, but not right away, first dedicate yourself to searching for ores elsewhere, mining the caves, then from your base you will descend more levels where you will find harder rocks but surely also ores.
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Re: Tips for mining?

Postby Muzk » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:15 pm

What he said. Even though under your base may not be anything but rocks, you might find stuff on the next level, but you need a single bar of any metal to descend further. So find ore somewhere else. Keep in mind level 2 will require even higher strength/tool levels to mine, so also focus on getting good quality trees for good branches. And scout for good ql rocks in random mines.
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Re: Tips for mining?

Postby linkfanpc » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:16 pm

If you want to build a mine under you you can, but don't start it until you have enough wax production (at least 15-20 beehives covering around 1000 tiles of crops, or a carrot wax generator) and leather production (at least 100 units of hide per day) to sink into the hard leather cost. It's unlikely there's ore directly beneath you but it is worthwhile to dig two, three, four layers down IF you're comfortably able as even if you don't find ore you can find a cave leading to ore.

If you do this make sure you claim and palisade each minehole, both the lower and upper part. A village claim makes this easy and is cheap to make.

When you're just beginning mining though, here is my normal strat:

Step 0: Get enough PerXExp to find plentiful rustroots, and buy as many mining skills and as much Masonry as you possibly can.
Step 1: Make a ton of rustroot extract, at least 5 jars full.
Step 2: Find a mountain.
Step 3: Run around prospecting on the mountain. Eventually your character will detect some ore and it shows you a pie slice aiming roughly toward it.
Step 4: Chase down and locate the vein of ore. On the surface you will be detecting once downward, to Level 1, which can only yield Lead or Tin ore. (Lead Glance or Cassiterite respectively.)
Step 5: Mark it on your map, and find the closest cave entrance. Since it's a mountain, they'll be everywhere.
Step 6: Once inside, triangulate where the ore is underground. If it's near a cave wall, start mining! If it isn't, you can mark it for later if you want, but give up on that for now and repeat steps 3 through 6.
Step 7: Once you've started mining, keep in mined there is no way to be safe from cave-ins before you get your first bar of metal. You have to simply hope and pray.
Step 7.5 (optional): Mine at least 18 pieces (One stack furnace worth) and smelt it, when it's Lead or Tin you'll usually get at least 1 bar. Use that to build a mine support on your vein. If you're good at minesweeper, and a little lucky, this isn't required.
Step 8: Profit! You need to reach Level 2 to get Copper to alloy into Bronze to make armor, weapons, and other hard metal items, but soft metal lets you make Tinker axes and shovels, rings and necklaces, a metal cauldron, and other fun goodies.
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Re: Tips for mining?

Postby Kinglazy » Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:15 am

linkfanpc wrote:don't start it until you have enough wax production (at least 15-20 beehives covering around 1000 tiles of crops, or a carrot wax generator) and leather production (at least 100 units of hide per day) to sink into the hard leather cost.


I am but one hermit my dude. And a fulltime employee/dad.

The other steps seem reasonable enough, thank you. I only need enough hard metals for buildings and one time crafts, maybe iron arrows if got lucky with excess metals.
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Re: Tips for mining?

Postby linkfanpc » Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:26 am

Kinglazy wrote:I am but one hermit my dude.


Unfortunately, therein lies my point...
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Re: Tips for mining?

Postby waga » Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:58 am

Kinglazy wrote:
linkfanpc wrote:don't start it until you have enough wax production (at least 15-20 beehives covering around 1000 tiles of crops, or a carrot wax generator) and leather production (at least 100 units of hide per day) to sink into the hard leather cost.


I am but one hermit my dude. And a fulltime employee/dad.

The other steps seem reasonable enough, thank you. I only need enough hard metals for buildings and one time crafts, maybe iron arrows if got lucky with excess metals.


Dont worry he's hallucinating completely.
get some candleberries in the swamp , 5= 1 wax.
Plant crops , 15-20 behives is completely overkill for your need, you'll be fine with 5 , more the better obviously.
Voila.
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Re: Tips for mining?

Postby linkfanpc » Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:13 am

waga wrote:
Kinglazy wrote:
linkfanpc wrote:don't start it until you have enough wax production (at least 15-20 beehives covering around 1000 tiles of crops, or a carrot wax generator) and leather production (at least 100 units of hide per day) to sink into the hard leather cost.


I am but one hermit my dude. And a fulltime employee/dad.

The other steps seem reasonable enough, thank you. I only need enough hard metals for buildings and one time crafts, maybe iron arrows if got lucky with excess metals.


Dont worry he's hallucinating completely.
get some candleberries in the swamp , 5= 1 wax.
Plant crops , 15-20 behives is completely overkill for your need, you'll be fine with 5 , more the better obviously.
Voila.


This is 50 candleberries per minehole, mind you, so a slow and painful method, but a method nonetheless. You can supplement it with wax from melting wild beehives too. But really building a large farm and a bunch of beeskeps is preferable, and passive. I personally do 3 6x6 plots per crop, and generally grow around 10 different crops. That's just around 1000 crops, which takes 15-20 skeps to cover. Wax and hardened leather are a hot commodity and if you're willing to go the mile to make multiple mineholes you may as well, in my opinion, set up a good wax production, and make yourself some tsacks and Cutthroat armor after the mineholes.
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Re: Tips for mining?

Postby waga » Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:26 am

You're tripping.
He just told you he's playing casually.
Why the hell would you tell him to do that many beehives and a field that big.
Hell you don't even need that many if you no life the game.
He'll log 4h a day , harvest his field , get some wax , get some candleberries and he's more than fine. Not like he'll be ready for level 2 anyway.
You dont need 50 candleberries , you need 25 and 5 wax, or whatever ratio you decide.
His progress is slower by having less hours played , but his beehive generation work the same than for any no life.
while the no life will be wax-gated for his progression, the casual isnt , he has a million other crap to do anyway

I no life the shit out of the game and even me realise how intimidating reading to make 1000 tiles farm and 15-20 beehives can be lol .
Im not even sure he own a 1000 tiles claim to begin with :D

I'll say it again: "Not like he'll be ready for level 2 anyway"
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Re: Tips for mining?

Postby linkfanpc » Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:54 am

waga wrote:You're tripping.
He just told you he's playing casually.

I'll say it again: "Not like he'll be ready for level 2 anyway"


Sorry, this is exactly what i meant to imply. He mentioned building a minehole in his base just for the sake of it and i wanted to get across that yeah, you can do that, but if you want to do it well, it takes a lot of dedication. The better bet is to wander and find ore.

That being said;

You dont need 50 candleberries , you need 25 and 5 wax, or whatever ratio you decide.


Not quite, 50 candleberries makes 10 wax, and it takes 10 wax to make 5 hardened leather (2 wax 3 leather each), and it takes 5 hardened leather to make a minehole from level 0->1, 1->2, and 2->3. Then it gets even more expensive at 10 HL per minehole as you go deeper than level 3.
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