New Brodgar - War of Newb Defense

[burgingham]

Aha insult first think later. Got it.

The siege sytsem is getting a complete overhaul. Keys are a dumb and unecessarily complicated mechanic and the only ones who cannot see that are people pulling off said cheap ganks. There is no tactic in it, just a dumb mistake of someone who doesn't know any better. Master Keys are kept on alts by smart people that never get logged in. That already is proof enough they are silly.

And maybe Ainran is more influential than you because they can actually express a coherent thought and be polite about it and what else you have as basic conversaton rules. Jorb created the IP so he doesn't have to wade through unreadable shitposts all day.

i didnt insult until the end ok

also what if your chasing someone into a village they open the gate you get in with them kill them then what? you cant take the key and open it to let your friends in for a raid thats a completely legit tatic and is completely deserving of a raid.

it doesnt matter how coherent my though was i wasnt arguing my point to the devs demanding for change if i truly wanted to make a point to the devs about what i though should happen obviously i would focus on making it readable and having some actual thought behind it, u shud focus on insulting less god ur mean!

Don't run into another person's town then all alone...

[LadyGoo]

I'm worried that IP has none of the serious players from the Russian majority in it.
That's disconcerting for obvious reasons.

Meh, Ainran got in because IP recommended them. Jerb anal friends.

[venatorvenator]

I'm worried that IP has none of the serious players from the Russian majority in it.
That's disconcerting for obvious reasons.

Meh, Ainran got in because IP recommended them. Jerb anal friends.

Didn't the leak come from a Russian-speaking IP member?

[LadyGoo]

Didn't the leak come from a Russian-speaking IP member?

Yeah. All russians = Koya. Moreover, the kingdoms has been leaked as well. Not like there was anyone from russian community in it.

[DDDsDD999]

also what if your chasing someone into a village they open the gate you get in with them kill them then what? you cant take the key and open it to let your friends in for a raid thats a completely legit tatic and is completely deserving of a raid.

Don't run into another person's town then all alone...

I don't see the correlation between the scenario explained and what you just posted. The single person couldn't even run in alone because the gate is there, let alone a group.

[ChildhoodObesity]

Don't run into another person's town then all alone...

you may not necessarily be alone what if 3 of you manage to get in there before you close it and kill 1 with slave keys and open for your other 7 friends to join you in a raid that risk of running through the gate in an attempt to raid the village should be rewarded if successful with a raid on the village heuhe

anyways theres many other things you can gain from looting the keys what if you catch someone walking to their bwalld soil node with their masterkey and you kill them should you not be able to try and take their node etcetcetc

the argument that looted keys shouldnt have an affect on anything is dumb theres a lot of huge things they could affect even if you see it only being positive for raiders that isnt a bad thing just cuz ur not a raider m8

[venatorvenator]

Not like there was anyone from russian community in it.

NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION

[burgingham]

also what if your chasing someone into a village they open the gate you get in with them kill them then what? you cant take the key and open it to let your friends in for a raid thats a completely legit tatic and is completely deserving of a raid.

Don't run into another person's town then all alone...

I don't see the correlation between the scenario explained and what you just posted. The single person couldn't even run in alone because the gate is there, let alone a group.

I was just picking up on his example. And yes they cannot run in, big deal. He got back to his town and is safe now, you failed. Seems fair to me.

This isn't supposed to be gank and hearth anymore. We will have village vs village warfare soon if you want to do it on that level. There is no need for keys then anymore either (nor is there now). And no, you shouldn't be able to take their node. We talked about the boolean nature of destroying someones stuff at length already and this belongs into that category. Go and ram the place and take it over properly if you want it. An unlucky incident shouldn't lose you your most important resources.

@LadyGoo: There are Russians with IP access, they seem to be inactive though. Koya was in there once, was the first person who managed to get kicked out again... APXEOLOG was considered but due to the destructive view he has on the game Jorb decided against it I think.

I know I will sound like favouring our own guys now, but K-T belongs in there. Then again he would never post anything anyway

[ChildhoodObesity]

I was just picking up on his example. And yes they cannot run in, big deal. He got back to his town and is safe now, you failed. Seems fair to me.

This isn't supposed to be gank and hearth anymore. We will have village vs village warfare soon if you want to do it on that level. There is no need for keys then anymore either (nor is there now). And no, you shouldn't be able to take their node. We talked about the boolean nature of destroying someones stuff at length already and this belongs into that category. Go and ram the place and take it over properly if you want it. An unlucky incident shouldn't lose you your most important resources.

the running back into his town and being safe is a problem when if you aggro someone they can run and you cant catch them considering you're running at the same speed, its not as bad anymore with the whole cant drink while running thing but in theory people should lose stamina at the same time while chasing and be drinking at the same time so the distance between you and the guy you're chasing should hardly decrease throughout the whole chase. so only a horse or having higher q water would have an impact but you would have to be chasing them for quite some time for the high q water to help you catch up all that much assuming they have quite some lead. so risking running in with them in hopes of being rewarded with a raid on the village is very fair it may not necessarily be a gank even what if you run in and theres 8guys inside and since youve been chasing that 1 guy for so long you have ip on him and you get in instant cleave him and open the gate for ur friends for a fair fight. can u srsly say that fight is not earned????????

and its extremely hard to raid people now so saying go ram it to take it over properly is retarded especially when theyre working on changing the siege mechanics because of how bad it currently is

[spawningmink]

I was just picking up on his example. And yes they cannot run in, big deal. He got back to his town and is safe now, you failed. Seems fair to me.

This isn't supposed to be gank and hearth anymore. We will have village vs village warfare soon if you want to do it on that level. There is no need for keys then anymore either (nor is there now). And no, you shouldn't be able to take their node. We talked about the boolean nature of destroying someones stuff at length already and this belongs into that category. Go and ram the place and take it over properly if you want it. An unlucky incident shouldn't lose you your most important resources.

the running back into his town and being safe is a problem when if you aggro someone they can run and you cant catch them considering you're running at the same speed, its not as bad anymore with the whole cant drink while running thing but in theory people should lose stamina at the same time while chasing and be drinking at the same time so the distance between you and the guy you're chasing should hardly decrease throughout the whole chase. so only a horse or having higher q water would have an impact but you would have to be chasing them for quite some time for the high q water to help you catch up all that much assuming they have quite some lead. so risking running in with them in hopes of being rewarded with a raid on the village is very fair it may not necessarily be a gank even what if you run in and theres 8guys inside and since youve been chasing that 1 guy for so long you have ip on him and you get in instant cleave him and open the gate for ur friends for a fair fight. can u srsly say that fight is not earned????????

and its extremely hard to raid people now so saying go ram it to take it over properly is retarded especially when theyre working on changing the siege mechanics because of how bad it currently is

i agree wiht everything except cleave because i still cant get it!!!! (but rly go ram it legit)