Patchouli_Knowledge wrote:Regardless of the current results, something I should note is that Robben kind of made a wrong move that caused this chain of events. I am not labeling him morally wrong in his actions, nor right, but his response to some of the criticism weren't exactly tactful (my apologies), and one of the responders being an Ainran member, a faction that isn't shy from fighting. I am not certain if he knew this or not but his response against Ainran triggered what we see happened now. Regardless of who you are, if you get into a verbal confrontation and the other person does not back down, usually, the confrontation will escalate.
I think what could have changed everything is if Robben had someone else act as a speaker on his behalf as having a skilled speaker would have had a dramatically different effect. I'm pretty sure you would have better result if you know how to butter up your words. Note I am I am not including Brodgar's internal polices into this because I do not know enough about it to comment and I am not including any moral alignment in this because that is not what I am talking about in this article.
Also the thread ending up someone calling someone poo poo head brought an abrupt end of being poltical and starting being childish which is a little disappointing. Also I apologies ahead of time if I offend anymore as I am not perfect in avoidng stepping other's toes.
(I also should look over everything and learn from it)
Actually, I doubt.
Ainran remembers me my old UO guild when I was a teenager. You could try any polite and political means of conversation, we would end up pking you and everyone in your guild just because we could and we tought it was fun, POINT!
Ppl offered houses so we stop the killing, we got the houses, and killed em. Ppl offered protection, we trapped em and killed em. ppl offered good mining places, we got to those places, and made sure they couldn't use those anymore.
All because we tought it was fun to throw shit at ppl, and we were good at pvping.
All this forum talk is useless to the side wanting peace, and serves as an excuse to the side having fun killing to do so!
Ainran don't want to leave brodgar alone, they want to go there, kill all they can, get back here and watch the rage, this is how they have fun, and a game is suposed to give ppl some fun. And this is pretty much how pvp game works! Only problem I see there is that, if they keep targeting newbies, some of those may be new potential future subscribers that'll give up when being 1 - 2 hit koed and murdered without any warnings. And no, not every new player comes to check all that's written on the foruns before they start playing! What this can hurt? Ask Jorb and Loftar, they'r the ones seeing the subscribers go down as the time passes by, and the money income reduces. (wich MAY affect updates to)
This is my point of view. I'm not living at brodgar, I'm not living with ainran, I'm not really part of this conflict (but now I may have become a target for giving out my opinion), but this is how I see it!
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someone is still asking for anyone in new brodgar in irc, yet nobody responds to him either. if new brodgar wants to actually build relationship with others, the leader or sub-leader needs to try and talk to more people in general before showing any of their cards in public.
