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Re: Amish Paradise

Postby Onep » Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:28 am

barra wrote:You can climb cliffs, you can't traverse closed gates. If you try to attack someone over a cliff, no problem, but if you try to attack someone over a wall or closed gate it stops you with a warning message. You also can't be shot with ranged attacks over a closed gate. So yeah, it is a big assumption that someone could be hit with melee attacks over a closed gate in spite of all this. And as far as I can tell, it isn't reported on the bug forums.


What are you talking about? There is no warning message. You were already in combat, being blocked literally has nothing to do with it. Attacking is all about proximity. If you're standing right on top of the gate like you were the gate obviously doesn't give you a large enough gap to stop attacks.

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Re: Amish Paradise

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:01 am

Not everyone are combat specialists so something like this may actually be unknown to them which can be a rude awakening especially those that consider brick wall gates to allow them to be safe, not knowing that there is a tiny vulnerability area right next to the gate.
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Re: Amish Paradise

Postby MusicWarrior » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:16 am

That's just haven, noone speaks about that it seems a little bit weird that people can put their swords between the bars of brickwall gate and kill someone. Noone says that it might be a little bit unlogic that you can't shoot an animal on the cliff but you can reach it with a punch. Zero understanding for a guy who just didn't know about killing through gates but handled 3vs1 outside the brickwall. Already noone see that Amish Paradise came by with intention of just messing things up and barely no plan. They destroyed some stockpiles of fishes, wandered around the brickwall and then couldn't kill a guy 3 vs 1 but had to use his lack of knowledge about this killing through gate. They have seen him not poping up defences. It's like killing an afk person (what actually was their intention since my fishing alt was taken as afk 3 times and they made attempts to get closer to him but that didn't work out) and being happy that you are amazing raider and fighter. So basically haven forum appreciate what amish paradise did and the only thing they see here is that barra is noob because he didn't know about killing through gates.

So we've already said that barra is noob and he should die in hell, ok, what now about amish paradise? We can read even in this topic that it's embarrasing for LS of Amish to hear how someone blacken their names. Demanding wrought from poor hermits?! And now they came by to kill fishing sprucecap and destroy what can be destroyed outside the brickwall? Why Amish Paradise? We've heard such great things from your mouths about your village, are we going to hear more?
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Re: Amish Paradise

Postby ramones » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:29 am

The overwall fights are not know to new players until they die like this and this shti should be fixed like 1 year ago. Its retarded. I wonder why can't we throw boats over the wall to land on attackers head and KO him.
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Re: Amish Paradise

Postby ChildhoodObesity » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:32 am

MusicWarrior wrote:That's just haven, noone speaks about that it seems a little bit weird that people can put their swords between the bars of brickwall gate and kill someone. Noone says that it might be a little bit unlogic that you can't shoot an animal on the cliff but you can reach it with a punch. Zero understanding for a guy who just didn't know about killing through gates but handled 3vs1 outside the brickwall. Already noone see that Amish Paradise came by with intention of just messing things up and barely no plan. They destroyed some stockpiles of fishes, wandered around the brickwall and then couldn't kill a guy 3 vs 1 but had to use his lack of knowledge about this killing through gate. They have seen him not poping up defences. It's like killing an afk person (what actually was their intention since my fishing alt was taken as afk 3 times and they made attempts to get closer to him but that didn't work out) and being happy that you are amazing raider and fighter. So basically haven forum appreciate what amish paradise did and the only thing they see here is that barra is noob because he didn't know about killing through gates.

So we've already said that barra is noob and he should die in hell, ok, what now about amish paradise? We can read even in this topic that it's embarrasing for LS of Amish to hear how someone blacken their names. Demanding wrought from poor hermits?! And now they came by to kill fishing sprucecap and destroy what can be destroyed outside the brickwall? Why Amish Paradise? We've heard such great things from your mouths about your village, are we going to hear more?

its not hard to run away from a 3v1 m8 especially when u have a fukn bwall to run into so thats not rlly an accomplishment surviving it, and who wouldnt jump at the opportunity to kill someone who isnt putting up their defenses yet is still in range to attack. the last part of ur post is the most autistic thing ive ever read tbh
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Re: Amish Paradise

Postby Tonkyhonk » Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:15 am

Patchouli_Knowledge wrote:Not everyone are combat specialists so something like this may actually be unknown to them which can be a rude awakening especially those that consider brick wall gates to allow them to be safe, not knowing that there is a tiny vulnerability area right next to the gate.

MusicWarrior wrote:That's just haven, noone speaks about that it seems a little bit weird that people can put their swords between the bars of brickwall gate and kill someone.

hmm? sorry if im mistaking this with something else, but i thought it was something almost everyone (except for new players ofc) was aware of with pve, and never struck me as something that only a combat specialist knows... am i missing something? is this supposed to be something new from this world only?
(not saying that it means barra should be labeled something for not knowing it, im just curious here.)


MusicWarrior wrote:Why Amish Paradise? We've heard such great things from your mouths about your village, are we going to hear more?

i myself have never heard of a good reputation on this village before, and it sure doesnt sound like they feel bad about the events seriously either. where did you hear "such great things"?
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Re: Amish Paradise

Postby Ganhart » Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:07 pm

MusicWarrior wrote: it's embarrasing for LS of Amish to hear how someone blacken their names. Demanding wrought from poor hermits?! And now they came by to kill fishing sprucecap and destroy what can be destroyed outside the brickwall? Why Amish Paradise? We've heard such great things from your mouths about your village, are we going to hear more?


Don't know what are you speaking about, I've already stated in this thread, that we are not really that friendly.
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Re: Amish Paradise

Postby Kaios » Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:01 pm

For what's it worth, getting killed through a gate or a wall or any object that you shouldn't be getting killed through totally sucks man, it's bullshit. I remember wall fighting being a thing but I was under the impression jorb and loftar attempted to fix this by giving walls a larger hitbox than they had previously which is why the hitbox extends beyond the actual image now and takes the full tile. I do not believe it took the full tile in past worlds which is what allowed players to hit each other through it.

However, the gate being an object that you open/close and walk through obviously does not have such a large hitbox as the wall which is why they were able to hit you. I never did actually see this happen through a gate on older worlds it was always the wall but I guess it would have worked the same.

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Re: Amish Paradise

Postby barra » Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:50 pm

Kaios wrote:Sorry for your loss.

Barely a loss, I got to keep all my stuff and she was nothing but combat skills. Any idea why I never saw Valhalla? I made sure the character met the requirements over a month ago.
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Re: Amish Paradise

Postby DDDsDD999 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:20 pm

Equipment buffs don't apply to valhalla requirements. Could be the answer.
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