Cook credo doesn't apply to baking/dough or other mats

The worst monsters in the Hearthlands warp the fabric of space and time...

Cook credo doesn't apply to baking/dough or other mats

Postby jordancoles » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:18 pm

After playing around with the credo yesterday I have a few concerns.


My main concern is with how "cooking" is defined at the moment. I'm not sure if it's an oversight but making dough does not fall under the cooking category and so double yield, quality bonus and faster crafting speed does not apply when crafting it. The same goes for any cooking material such as butter, grinding flour, etc.

When the credo is applied, it's great. But ignoring the entire baking side of cooking seems a little 'off' to me.

Is this is an oversight? Atm the credo is only good for end-result crafts like buttered cave bulbs or red shred salads.
Duhhrail wrote:No matter how fast you think you can beat your meat, Jordancoles lies in the shadows and waits to attack his defenseless prey. (tl;dr) Don't afk and jack off. :lol:

Check out my pro-tips thread
Image Image Image
User avatar
jordancoles
 
Posts: 14081
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 6:50 pm
Location: British Columbia, Canada

Re: Cook credo doesn't apply to baking/dough or other mats

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:24 am

Crafting speed should have an effect. Yield and quality shouldn't. Getting a double bonus in the process of making bread (or anything else with an intermediary crafted ingredient like dough) adds something none of the other credos do.
Opinions expressed in this statement are the authors alone and in no way reflect on the game development values of the actual developers.
User avatar
MagicManICT
 
Posts: 18435
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:47 am

Re: Cook credo doesn't apply to baking/dough or other mats

Postby infectedking3 » Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:01 am

MagicManICT wrote:Crafting speed should have an effect. Yield and quality shouldn't. Getting a double bonus in the process of making bread (or anything else with an intermediary crafted ingredient like dough) adds something none of the other credos do.

blacksmith has double output chance when crafting
farmer increased crop yield
forager chance for double picked herbs
gem hunter chance to double mine out a gem
lumberjack increases yield for blocks/boards from a log
potter's extra chance to collect gray/pit/caveclay (stacks with forager btw)
Gardener double yield from garden pots


I'm thinking blacksmith credo makes your point a little invalid (but i thought i'd list all the credos that have double output chances
infectedking3
 
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:06 pm

Re: Cook credo doesn't apply to baking/dough or other mats

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:33 am

I phrased my above statement poorly. I meant that a person shouldn't get multiplying output because you get 2 or 3 (or more) increased yields from the same credo while in the same stream of processing: grain -> flour -> dough -> bread. In the one case where bonuses do stack, it's because you get a bonus from more than one credo.

But maybe I'm mistaken on how the other credos work. I've done nothing but wander the forest doing random questing this world. I got bored of milking cows and tending large plots of farms and mining out a thousand (or more) tiles in a day. Derping around in the forest has, for the most part, been fun by just making up silly stories in my head while I wander.
Opinions expressed in this statement are the authors alone and in no way reflect on the game development values of the actual developers.
User avatar
MagicManICT
 
Posts: 18435
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:47 am

Re: Cook credo doesn't apply to baking/dough or other mats

Postby RickyRio » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:17 am

MagicManICT wrote:I phrased my above statement poorly. I meant that a person shouldn't get multiplying output because you get 2 or 3 (or more) increased yields from the same credo while in the same stream of processing: grain -> flour -> dough -> bread. In the one case where bonuses do stack, it's because you get a bonus from more than one credo.

But maybe I'm mistaken on how the other credos work. I've done nothing but wander the forest doing random questing this world. I got bored of milking cows and tending large plots of farms and mining out a thousand (or more) tiles in a day. Derping around in the forest has, for the most part, been fun by just making up silly stories in my head while I wander.


what I think he is saying is that it does not have any chance to double when making dough nor does it have any chance to double when taken out of an oven fully baked. aka baked goods do not benefit from the bonus in any way.
RickyRio
 
Posts: 93
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:43 pm

Re: Cook credo doesn't apply to baking/dough or other mats

Postby Granger » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:17 pm

While the idea of 'chance for double' bonus seems to be nice at first glance... such a kind of game mechanic is known to be extremely addictive.
⁎ Mon Mar 22, 2010 ✝ Thu Jan 23, 2020
User avatar
Granger
 
Posts: 9254
Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:00 pm

Re: Cook credo doesn't apply to baking/dough or other mats

Postby infectedking3 » Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:29 pm

Granger wrote:While the idea of 'chance for double' bonus seems to be nice at first glance... such a kind of game mechanic is known to be extremely addictive.

Extremely addictive? Bruh, do you even play or wander the forest also?
infectedking3
 
Posts: 93
Joined: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:06 pm

Re: Cook credo doesn't apply to baking/dough or other mats

Postby jordancoles » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:45 pm

RickyRio wrote:
MagicManICT wrote:I phrased my above statement poorly. I meant that a person shouldn't get multiplying output because you get 2 or 3 (or more) increased yields from the same credo while in the same stream of processing: grain -> flour -> dough -> bread. In the one case where bonuses do stack, it's because you get a bonus from more than one credo.

But maybe I'm mistaken on how the other credos work. I've done nothing but wander the forest doing random questing this world. I got bored of milking cows and tending large plots of farms and mining out a thousand (or more) tiles in a day. Derping around in the forest has, for the most part, been fun by just making up silly stories in my head while I wander.


what I think he is saying is that it does not have any chance to double when making dough nor does it have any chance to double when taken out of an oven fully baked. aka baked goods do not benefit from the bonus in any way.

Yes.

And baking is pretty much the main food source for a lot of cooks (I don't count cheese as cooking)
Duhhrail wrote:No matter how fast you think you can beat your meat, Jordancoles lies in the shadows and waits to attack his defenseless prey. (tl;dr) Don't afk and jack off. :lol:

Check out my pro-tips thread
Image Image Image
User avatar
jordancoles
 
Posts: 14081
Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 6:50 pm
Location: British Columbia, Canada

Re: Cook credo doesn't apply to baking/dough or other mats

Postby Granger » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:32 pm

infectedking3 wrote:
Granger wrote:While the idea of 'chance for double' bonus seems to be nice at first glance... such a kind of game mechanic is known to be extremely addictive.

Extremely addictive? Bruh, do you even play or wander the forest also?

Sure, same thing there (as you listed here). Chance for double $result is a classical slot machine mechanic (proven to make these more addictive in an unhealthy way) and I'm appalled by jorbtar putting such attacks on the cerebral reward centers of their users into the game. This mechanic should be removed from the game.
⁎ Mon Mar 22, 2010 ✝ Thu Jan 23, 2020
User avatar
Granger
 
Posts: 9254
Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:00 pm

Re: Cook credo doesn't apply to baking/dough or other mats

Postby pheonix » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:33 am

I mentioned this to jorb other day, even suggested at least making credo buff oven fuelq or something. Just because dough is unique it sucks that so many foods are blocked off from benefiting whereas in other credos you get procs all the time. So hopefully at least next week he will apply the buff to doughs at least and make us happy. Also at this point im starting to think granger is just a troll like shubla suggesting removing features from a game he barely plays.
pheonix
 
Posts: 245
Joined: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:32 pm

Next

Return to Bugs

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Barkrowler [Bot], Claude [Bot] and 224 guests