Anyone having sound issues?

[McGovern1981]

Hi, is anyone having sound issues? It's like popping and echoing.

[linkfanpc]

press : and put in "audiobuf 8192" without the quotes

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[mvgulik]

Is might help to include:
- Used OS (Windows/Linux/Mac/.?.) and version.
- Related Clients.
After that is potentially narrowed down a bit ... Java flavor and version come to mind.

For me: Linux + Ender & Kami. No sound issues. (assuming default audiobuf 1024)

For someone else: Windows 10 + Ender (started after last client update if I'm correct): Major sound issues. ... + audiobuf 8192 did not help.

[BigCountry]

Hi, is anyone having sound issues? It's like popping and echoing.

+1

same thing.

[vatas]

==TLDR==
Having too high of an "audiobuf" value can cause its own set of issues (mainly a delay between when the sound is supposed to play, and when it actually plays? ) but it's still probably less jarring than the "stutter/echo" -thing. I don't know/remember what's the default these days, but you can start with 2014 and go higher if the issue persist.

==Yapping==
I think this issue "scales" from CPU load, in worst cases I remember the effect can be extremely noticeable, something like:

Intended audio: "Lorem ipsum"

Output audio: "Lo-lor-or-orem-i-i-psu-su-sum"

(Elaboration on the CPU load: at least when using one old PC, I was able to make Haven perform way better, in general, by disabling most of the "eye-candy" features from Windows - basically making all the window frames and taskbar element use flat 2D textures instead of whatever fancy is the default. This was most likely because Windows doesn't treat Haven as a "priority application", for lack of a better term. Most other games get this treatment and don't have to fight Windows bloat for the required system resources.)

[McGovern1981]

Is might help to include:
- Used OS (Windows/Linux/Mac/.?.) and version.
- Related Clients.
After that is potentially narrowed down a bit ... Java flavor and version come to mind.

For me: Linux + Ender & Kami. No sound issues. (assuming default audiobuf 1024)

For someone else: Windows 10 + Ender (started after last client update if I'm correct): Major sound issues. ... + audiobuf 8192 did not help.

Ya audio buff didn't help. OS is windows 11 and I'm using ender which I think may have something to do with it cause it just started doing this.

[vatas]

I have no idea if this is true, but sounds legit?

I think it's time to fix laggy sound/stuttering

would be nice, but I don't see it happening until 2030 when AI will be in charge of the codebase

That may be the case since I encountered the sound issue only on Windows, while loftar develops on Linux.
One likely reason for this is that Windows uses 16ms scheduler time slices, while Linux-based systems usually use 1ms slices.
With this tick rate of 60Hz the audio buffer drains at a rate of ~735 samples per tick. That means if there are scheduling issues or another application takes away the CPU from the audio thread for even one tick the result can be fatal when the audio buffer is small.

The first step would be to make the default audio buffer at least 4096 on Windows.
Another thing that can improve the situation are the WinAPI functions timeBeginPeriod() and timeEndPeriod() from mmsystem.h that allow you to request a higher resolution of e.g. 1ms for your application.
There is probably some way to call them from a Java application.

And then there seems to be a separate issue that affects the audio when the client runs in the background at a reduced frame rate of 5 fps.

[mvgulik]

Ya audio buff didn't help. OS is windows 11 and I'm using ender which I think may have something to do with it cause it just started doing this.

Suggest also reporting it in Ender topic. It at least shows its effecting more players.

Think the "CPU load" post of vatas could potentially also help Ender narrowing down the problem in his last client update.

[SexyBigBoobaDakkan]

Loftar went on a spree last week and the primary focus of the 46,000 commits was introducing a new audio bug.

[SnuggleSnail]

┌─────────────────────┬────────┐
│ Metric │ Count │
├─────────────────────┼────────┤
│ Commits │ 258 │
├─────────────────────┼────────┤
│ Lines added │ 21,868 │
├─────────────────────┼────────┤
│ Lines deleted │ 3,867 │
├─────────────────────┼────────┤
│ Total lines changed │ 25,735 │
└─────────────────────┴────────┘

twenty thousand lines of schizo swedish code and all it managed to do was fuck up sound, make memory latency worse, and cause a bunch of freezing on windows lol