Weirdness with Chicken food & qualities megathread.

[stickman]

just wanted to updated that my chickens went down again.

[ubersheva]

After a few generations grown in coop I can say that chickens' quality asymptotically changes towards q 6 (6 4 8). All chickens, both taken from wilderness and grown in that coop, change in quality towards that number eventually. Only one hen somehow became 5.7 (6 4 7). Eggs may appear of a much higher quality, like q12, but hatched chickens drop in quality over time.
Also, is there a single evidence that coop actually work for someone? I have only seen reports that it's broken.

[shubla]

My chickens ql didnt change or they didnt eat anything during night. I checked again now. They ate half of food on choop during day and all dropped to q8. My food is avg around q20

[Jeff]

Right now my coop is working as expected (as in, no losses of quality). But i've been careful to not put anything that would make even a single quality drop under q10.
Either way, the averaging calculation is far too detrimental, and something should be done about it.

[CSPAN]

Only been using q20 plus fodder. Chickens have dropped two days in a row, and now the chicks I have are gradually losing quality. The fuck IS this?

[Yasgur]

Only been using q20 plus fodder. Chickens have dropped two days in a row, and now the chicks I have are gradually losing quality. The fuck IS this?

Sorry if I keep harping on this in every thread, but q20 isn't descriptive enough. Do you mean 20-20-20? If its 9-31-20 (or whatever averages to q20), I'm pretty sure its going to ruin your birds. Kransthow already demonstrated this earlier in the thread. You must consider the three sub-qualities, not just the average.

[Clemence]

From these results it seems pretty obvious that the cause of the extremely low swill qualities everyone is finding is that whenever a new food item is added to the coop it always rounds down the average of the swill and the item to the nearest integer. The consequence of this is to EVER raise the swill quality of any one quality type the item being added must have quality in that type greater than (number of items in coop) + (current swill quality). To lower the swill quality an added item simply has to have a quality value lower than the current swill quality. Essentially the entire issue is caused by propagated rounding errors.

Instead of rouding down, they should make a system like the food diversity : various types of food for chicken = round up.

[CSPAN]

Only been using q20 plus fodder. Chickens have dropped two days in a row, and now the chicks I have are gradually losing quality. The fuck IS this?

Sorry if I keep harping on this in every thread, but q20 isn't descriptive enough. Do you mean 20-20-20? If its 9-31-20 (or whatever averages to q20), I'm pretty sure its going to ruin your birds. Kransthow already demonstrated this earlier in the thread. You must consider the three sub-qualities, not just the average.

Well I know for sure I havent thrown anything in with any of the qualities under 10. Still not understanding how a chicken would go from base quality to like 6/10/8

[Shiala]

It appears to be making the calculation each time you put food into the coop. If you're shift clicking pieces in there one at a time, you are essentially nerfing it with each click if the food you're putting in is lower than the swill that is currently in the coop. The work around I have found for this is to use a bucket to see what the swill in the coop is. Then make sure any food you're putting in is higher than that. However, instead of clicking it in there one piece at a time, dump the food into a trough first. Then dump the trough into the coop so it does the calculation once instead of a whole bunch of times.

[ubersheva]

Wow, you can take fodder out with a bucket, didnt know that. Now I've checked the quality of the fodder in my coop and it's exactly the same as the quality that my chickens end up with. Indeed seems like a problem with rounding down and not storing exact values.