Hitched Untamed Animals Dissapearing

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Hitched Untamed Animals Dissapearing

Postby fecal » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:02 pm

I know I reported this in the How do I, through much confusion a while back. And It was determined that my animals were most likely aggro'd from outside of my walls. This caused them to Unhitch and Despawn. However Since then it has been changed so that animals cannot be aggro'd through walls fences. Also with the expansion of my base, the area my animals are taming at, is no longer accessable or viewable from outside of my walls. Another player or animal interfering here is not possible.

Here's what happened. In my little pen I 6 Taming posts, very uncleanly placed. As well as a food trough. The fence has one hole in it, being covered with a wicker basket. Within my pen I had 1 Tamed Female Cow, 1 Tamed Male Cow, 1 Tamed Sheep (Gender Unknown due to lack of frame of reference) 1 Muflon that has gone through a couple taming cycles. 2 Aurochs that I am pretty sure I've missed the Taming window for a couple times. I have been managing inventories, and crops for the past 8 hours in my base, and have been paying close attention to my animals, looking for any that are ready to fight. Within these 8 hours nothing has entered that stance. I went mining. came back and both of my Aurochs were missing. I was only away from my base for about an hour.

They were there when I logged in 9 hours ago. I have fought no animals since then, so I must assumed they were correctly hitched when I logged in, or they would have not been there when I logged in.

I also must conclude that it cannot be due to missing a taming cycle, because if missing X Taming cycles caused them to despawn, then wouldnt they despawn immediately after a taming cycle ended? not 9 hours into the wait for the next ready to fight stance.

I understand this is not a lot of informatin to go on, but I plan on trying to tame more Aurochs, and possibly Muflon depending on the second one I'm tamings determined gender. So I would be willing to troubleshoot a little if there are any idea's floating around.

Let me know if you need/want more information.

(Edit: I did sheer my sheep in this time period. I also attempted to bucket my tamed cows to see if any milk was available. I also tried to bucket the aurochs getting no milk.)
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Re: Hitched Untamed Animals Dissapearing

Postby Turtlesir » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:10 pm

fecal wrote:I also tried to bucket the aurochs getting no milk.

did you get a message doing this? it's possible this took them out of the taming process (not sure).
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Re: Hitched Untamed Animals Dissapearing

Postby fecal » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:32 pm

No system message at all.
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Re: Hitched Untamed Animals Dissapearing

Postby jorb » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:14 am

Animals do despawn if you miss the taming window and the map unloads. If you miss the taming window you need to reclover them and rehitch them. The game could certainly be clearer about indicating the status of these animals, and perhaps that is the real bug here.
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Re: Hitched Untamed Animals Dissapearing

Postby fecal » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:10 pm

That doesn't seem like this would fall under those conditions though? Because I was logged in for 9 hours at the time of the disappearance. The Taming window lasts 3-6 hours, and as the animals were right in the middle of my operation, I know they never entered the taming window during the time I was online. This implies that I missed the taming window while they were offline, and that means it would have happened while the map was unloaded. Wouldn't this cause them to despawn immediately, or at least shortly thereafter? I mean there is a very small chance that I logged in shortly after the taming window ended, but by my calculations based on when I hitched them, I would have missed the taming window something along the lines of 12 hours before I logged in. Does the map have to load before it unloads so to speak? meaning they will stay around until someone loads the map, giving an opportunity to reclover at least once despite how long its been?
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Re: Hitched Untamed Animals Dissapearing

Postby jorb » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:06 pm

Oh?

fecal wrote:2 Aurochs that I am pretty sure I've missed the Taming window for a couple times.
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Re: Hitched Untamed Animals Dissapearing

Postby fecal » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:38 pm

Well lets be a little more clear here. Although it's been a while so I don't remember the exact timeline.

From my understanding the current mechanics are such.
1.) Clover an animal
2.) hitch clovered animal.
3.) Wait 24 hours.
4.) Taming window opens for 3-6 hours.
5.) If session is completed successfully wait 24 hours.
(repeat until tamed)
5b.) If session is not completed successfully or taming window expires Animal will despawn as soon as map unloads.

So considering I had those Aurochs for a few days. Let's call it 48 hours. Im sure it was closer to 72 (excluding the 9 hours of online time the day they dissapeared.)

So I clovered Aurochs, brought them home, Hitched them.
48 hours pass no taming sessions are complete. (within these 48 hours there are at least two 8 hours periods where I was offline and the mad was unloaded.)
I log on. Play for 7-8 hours go mining, come back they are missing.

Why did these Aurochs wait so long to despawn? Shouldn't they have despawned 30 hours after the hitch? give or take, or the next available time the map unloaded? Because between hours 40 and 48 I was 100% offline. Even worst case, wouldn't they despawn at hour 40, considering maybe I was online during hours 30-40? Although this is not the case because I never witnessed the taming phase.

It seems to me that in this case, the animals are despawning because I missed a taming window. But they are not despawning 30 minutes after the map unloads. Unless there are some mechanics regarding the map loading and unloading I am unaware of.

Also to cast further doubt and confusion on the situation.

I have a hitched Muflon in my base right now, that I have not had a taming cycle with in over 6 irl days. Still hitched, still there every day when I log in. Maybe my understanding is severely limited here, in which case I apologize for potentially wasting time, but it really seems like something isn't working properly here. Given the mechanics explained. 24 hours after I hitched him, he would enter taming for 3-6 hours. and then despawn as soon as the map unloads. Assuming I wasn't online during his taming cycle (I wasn't) shouldn't he despawn before I log back on, and if not at least the next time I log out? I assure you I haven't been playing for 6 days straight. ;)
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Re: Hitched Untamed Animals Dissapearing

Postby Turtlesir » Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:56 pm

map chunks don't need to be void of players for very long to be unloaded. i think they check every so many minutes (20?) for activity, if there's no one one them, they unload. you can notice this in caves with bats respawning.
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