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Physics Say No

Postby shubla » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:11 pm

From ONE bucket full of barley seeds you get TEN buckets full of flour?
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Re: Physics Say No

Postby MagicManICT » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:18 pm

Going to have to agree with shubla on this. For storage purposes, it should probably be a 1:1 volume ratio. Stored flour settles and actually becomes denser than the grain it was milled from. However, this settling leaves it where a measurement by volume is inaccurate, so it needs to be sifted before use, thus making it much less dense than the grains. 1:1 just seems like a good compromise and "easy" to implement (just need to change one number).
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Re: Physics Say No

Postby FerrousToast » Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:27 am

MagicManICT wrote:Going to have to agree with shubla on this. For storage purposes, it should probably be a 1:1 volume ratio. Stored flour settles and actually becomes denser than the grain it was milled from. However, this settling leaves it where a measurement by volume is inaccurate, so it needs to be sifted before use, thus making it much less dense than the grains. 1:1 just seems like a good compromise and "easy" to implement (just need to change one number).

would make it actually reasonable to ever store ground flour.
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Re: Physics Say No

Postby jorb » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:39 pm

Game convenience says yes?
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Re: Physics Say No

Postby Redkat » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:04 pm

Definately :)
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Re: Physics Say No

Postby vatas » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:08 pm

IIRC the amount of flour you got from seeds used to be more realistic. It was changed because people complained that they don't have time/energy to farm 100x100 barley fields.
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Re: Physics Say No

Postby Ethan » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:25 am

Is the suggestion that seeds should produce 10x less flour, or that buckets should hold 10x more flour?
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Re: Physics Say No

Postby FerrousToast » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:31 am

Ethan wrote:Is the suggestion that seeds should produce 10x less flour, or that buckets should hold 10x more flour?

production was only raised x5 when it got beefed, so dropping it x10 would be idiotic. we are saying it doesn't make sense that the same seeds when ground into flour and discarding the chaff takes up more volume than the seeds themselves. I'm pretty sure people aren't saying we increase the capacity of barrels or buckets, but decrease the amount of space flour (and perhaps tobacco and pepper? all ground products storing better in barrels?) takes up so it's 1-1 rather than 1-10
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Re: Physics Say No

Postby Ethan » Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:23 am

FerrousToast wrote:
Ethan wrote:Is the suggestion that seeds should produce 10x less flour, or that buckets should hold 10x more flour?

production was only raised x5 when it got beefed, so dropping it x10 would be idiotic. we are saying it doesn't make sense that the same seeds when ground into flour and discarding the chaff takes up more volume than the seeds themselves. I'm pretty sure people aren't saying we increase the capacity of barrels or buckets, but decrease the amount of space flour (and perhaps tobacco and pepper? all ground products storing better in barrels?) takes up so it's 1-1 rather than 1-10


So a bucket should hold 100kg of flour and a barrel 1000kg of flour?
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Re: Physics Say No

Postby MagicManICT » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:00 am

What does volume have to do with weight?
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