Hairy Hitboxes and One Way Stickiness

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I'm sure it's well known by this point that the hitboxes are a bit simplistic and alpha. Something with Herbalist Tables seems to be especially off, though.



More to the point, the interaction here seems to have a problem with the player's hitbox. I'm not sure if the visual hitboxes drawn by the client (Amber) are even close, as they've proven to be unreliable in other situations. What I noted, though, is that with this setup, being close enough to the herbalist tables merely to use them means that if you try to walk left, you get stuck. This seems to be because the player's hitbox is slightly left of center over the player's position, and when you walk left, it sits just slightly inside the table and you can't move. Moving right works normally and shows a significant gap between the table and player.

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More to the point, the interaction here seems to have a problem with the player's hitbox. I'm not sure if the visual hitboxes drawn by the client (Amber) are even close, as they've proven to be unreliable in other situations. What I noted, though, is that with this setup, being close enough to the herbalist tables merely to use them means that if you try to walk left, you get stuck. This seems to be because the player's hitbox is slightly left of center over the player's position, and when you walk left, it sits just slightly inside the table and you can't move. Moving right works normally and shows a significant gap between the table and player.

Movement relies not only on hitboxes, but also on angles and movement speed (due to movement algorithm).

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Yeah, so? The movement stops because hitboxes collide. If they collide one way but not the other, that's a fault in the position of the hitbox. If the hitbox detection itself works differently (i.e. better or worse) based on the angle of movement, then the programmer should be replaced with someone who knows how to use the entire keyboard.

[strpk0]

Yeah, so? The movement stops because hitboxes collide. If they collide one way but not the other, that's a fault in the position of the hitbox. If the hitbox detection itself works differently (i.e. better or worse) based on the angle of movement, then the programmer should be replaced with someone who knows how to use the entire keyboard.

It's not that it works "better or worse" depending on angle, it's simply that unless you make 110% sure you are walking in a straight line (as in, a line not slanted even slightly towards the herbalist tables, which is almost impossible unless you use some sort of client feature), then you are going to collide with them.
Now, add to what I just said the fact that hitboxes rotate whenever an entity rotates (even if only slightly), so using the picture you described you can figure out how easily one of the corners of your character's hitbox could end up barely scratching the hitbox of the herb tables (unless again, you're walking in a 100% perfectly straight line), hence causing a collision.
If you look at your character's hitbox in the picture you provided you can easily notice proof of what I said (the hitbox isn't a perfect straight square like the herb table's), so it must be rotated at at the very least a small angle, causing you to collide whenever you walk in that direction.

I think if anything the problem here could be that the player's hitbox should be made into a circle instead of a square to prevent problems like this.

EDIT: Actually, upon re-reading your post I can see what you mean. Perhaps the player hitbox is not perfectly centered around its coordinates, and when the player rotates one of the sides just rams itself into the herb tables.

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I think if anything the problem here could be that the player's hitbox should be made into a circle instead of a square to prevent problems like this.

I frequently clip on the corners when turning. No corner, no problem.

[jorb]

I think the real fix here would be to implement some sort of skidding off mechanic. See also: viewtopic.php?f=40&t=45659

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EDIT: Actually, upon re-reading your post I can see what you mean. Perhaps the player hitbox is not perfectly centered around its coordinates, and when the player rotates one of the sides just rams itself into the herb tables.

Yeah, I tested it for a quite a while and it was always easy to go right, and hard to go left, and the direction I came from is irrelevant because while I came into the area from the left, I stopped to use the table then tried to move, which means I was perfectly reasonably perpendicular to start. I also tested being slightly left and slightly right of a table, which changed nothing.

I think the real fix here would be to implement some sort of skidding off mechanic. See also: viewtopic.php?f=40&t=45659

While sliding is a good general fix, it's complicated and probably a long way off. A mis-centered hitbox, on the other hand, should be an easy fix, and would solve a lot of problems with moving in tight spaces.