Mazes Complete Attribute Overhaul

[ChildhoodObesity]

Currently raising attributes is far too easy. With salt and good tables/charisma alts people are able to raise their stats extremely high in a very short amount of time. The satiation system doesn't do anything to slow down stat progression, and the whole system is easily botted. In my opinion the whole system needs a complete rework, so I've been spending a fair amount of time thinking up a more balanced approach to raising attributes, and here's what I came up with.

Tie attribute raising into real life activity where points are gained per one hour of time spent working on which ever attribute. This could be done with something similar to the Xbox Kinect, basically the idea is to track your motion and activities and translate it into in-game stat progression. This would benefit the game for a number of reasons: stat progression would be limited by real life hours, it would encourage people to specialize in certain attributes which would diversify the game more, it would be impossible to bot, and it would encourage real life activity. With stat progression being limited by real life hours, the world start will be much slower and it will take people longer to reach the end game. Anything that keeps people playing for longer periods of time is a good change in my opinion. The specialization of attributes would also completely destroy the need for alts and encourage people to actually play certain roles. Currently a single player is able to do just about everything, which is incredibly unrealistic. Now people would be encouraged to interact more with the community and try to join villages to fulfill a needed role.

The activities required to raise attributes would be as followed: (Just examples, open to change)

Strength
Raising strength will require you to do some form of weight exercises, or body exercises. Some examples of acceptable exercises would be push ups, pull ups, bench presses and dead lifts.

Agility
Raising agility will require you to do cardio related exercises such as running, or jump rope.

Intelligence
Raising intelligence would require you to read or score high in IQ tests. If you pass the Mensa test you should gain 50 intelligence automatically. This could pose a problem with curios so I also propose making it so only 16 intelligence is needed for a full study. One intelligence per single slotted item, two for a two slotted item, etc..

Constitution
Raising constitution would require you to study the American Constitution (or a made up haven constitution) and recite all the amendments with complete accuracy.

Perception
Raising perception would require you to eat carrots and unlike the other attributes this one could be raised twice as fast if you're wearing glasses.

Charisma
Raising charisma would require you to have conversations with friends and drop subtle metaphors mid-conversation. Having these conversations with your friends would draw some people to haven who had previously not played the game and people could group up to talk and have charisma raising sessions.

Dexterity
Raising dexterity would require you to draw/paint pictures or eat food with chopsticks.

Will
Raising will would require you to watch motivational videos and hype yourself up while looking in the mirror.

Psyche
Raising psyche would require you to read psychological studies and take part in psychological conversations. A PHD in psychology will gain you 100 points of psyche for free.

As I said these are all open to change, but I feel that replacing the current attribute raising system with this would benefit the game greatly. I think it would also be pretty cool that specializing an attribute in Haven would translate to real life. So if you're very muscular in game, you would be very muscular in real life. Anyways let me know what you guys think!

[infectedking]

Could also raise your farming stats based on growing crops in cameras and having a livestream of it to watch progression.

Cooking stat can increase for cooking dinner (much more stat bonus if you're cooking dinner for a group of friends aswell.)

Archery classes for increasing marksman (Or shooting range)

Masonry increased while helping to build houses/ovens to help your community.

Sewing is easily increased through making clothes and stitching up old worn ones so you can give them away for the less fortunate.

[2d0x]

Probably, I didn't understand something (I feel like Alice in Wonderland on tea drinking) :\

Constitution
Raising constitution would require you to study the American Constitution...

Storm of emotions...

[DDDsDD999]

This would solve a lot of issues with game balance currently. Signed.

Intelligence
Raising intelligence would require you to read or score high in IQ tests. If you pass the Mensa test you should gain 50 intelligence automatically. This could pose a problem with curios so I also propose making it so only 16 intelligence is needed for a full study. One intelligence per single slotted item, two for a two slotted item, etc...

I feel like some of the less...gifted...individuals could have trouble completing these tasks however, and be stuck with not enough intelligence to study a curio. As such, two...lessers...could group up and play a match of chess. With repeated play they could eventually raise their intellect. I'm sure masters of game-balance, such as sMartins and maze would agree.

[ChildhoodObesity]

This would solve a lot of issues with game balance currently. Signed.

Intelligence
Raising intelligence would require you to read or score high in IQ tests. If you pass the Mensa test you should gain 50 intelligence automatically. This could pose a problem with curios so I also propose making it so only 16 intelligence is needed for a full study. One intelligence per single slotted item, two for a two slotted item, etc...

I feel like some of the less...gifted...individuals could have trouble completing these tasks however, and be stuck with not enough intelligence to study a curio. As such, two...lessers...could group up and play a match of chess. With repeated play they could eventually raise their intellect. I'm sure masters of game-balance, such as sMartins and maze would agree.

This is a great idea, I was worried that may be a problem.

[Granger]

With this I agree:

Currently raising attributes is far too easy. With salt and good tables/charisma alts people are able to raise their stats extremely high in a very short amount of time. The satiation system doesn't do anything to slow down stat progression, and the whole system is easily botted. In my opinion the whole system needs a complete rework

The rest is a nice concept for an aprils fools joke. Something like www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=53337 could make sense though.

[loftar]

Currently raising attributes is far too easy. With salt and good tables/charisma alts people are able to raise their stats extremely high in a very short amount of time. The satiation system doesn't do anything to slow down stat progression

Agreed, and reworking food in some way is on our list of stuff to do, although we haven't formulated any concrete ideas yet.

That said, though, your suggestion appears to imply removing food altogether, which makes me perhaps a little less excited about it.

[Headchef]

Probably, I didn't understand something (I feel like Alice in Wonderland on tea drinking) :\

Constitution
Raising constitution would require you to study the American Constitution...

Storm of emotions...

You made me laugh

[dafels]

haha maze has so many good ideas

[ricky]

I enjoy the idea of eating food to increase 'stat potential' and then through action activating that potential.

store up ~X stat points through eating food, but you can only realize those stat points through activities.