More Dreams

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More Dreams

Postby DaniAngione » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:06 pm

Hello :)

Today I'm here to suggest a couple of additions that could be made to make Dream Catchers more interesting.

I'm basically talking about two new types of "Dreams" that could randomly come when you harvest a dream catcher:

A Terrible Nightmare
Could also be attached to an Experience Event. Sometimes, when harvesting dreams, there's a chance you'll harvest a Terrible Nightmare. A Terrible Nightmare could be used as a dream but could also be a curiosity.
I think of it as a medium curiosity, not bad but not really good either.

What would be cool, however, is if you could use the Terrible Nightmares to improve the dream (Seer's) curiosities. Just like when you craft a Cone Cow with a large Hops Cone and it gives you a different item (Hopped Up Cone Cow), crafting the Seer's items with Terrible Nightmares could instead create Corrupted items: Corrupted Bowl, Corrupted Spindle, Corrupted Bones, etc... that would look darker/cooler when dropped/hanged on walls, etc... (maybe the same item but with red or black "magical" effects (which are currently purple)
And the Corrupted Items themselves could be slightly improved versions of those curiosities.

Finally, the chance to get Nightmares could be somewhat related to in-game events. For example, witnessing murder; experiencing wounds; seeing a troll; etc... Those things could slightly "tip" the chance of getting nightmares.

Visions of Ages Past
A golden dream, also possibly attached to an Experience Event.
This special and super rare dream would relate to the ancestors of your characters and its quality could be determined by their average stats, regardless of the dream catcher quality. That is: if you have a q100 dream catcher but no ancestor, if you're lucky enough to get one of these it would be q10. If you have ancestors with average stats 200 and your dream catcher is q40, you'd still get this q200.

This very special dream, which is a vision of your ancestors sent by the gods themselves can also be used to craft Seer's Items but this time giving them a golden magical effect and having them called Ancestral (Ancestral Bones, Ancestral Spindle, Ancestral Bowl, etc...)
These would also be slightly improved curiosities but - more than that - they could be gildings too. Very rare and powerful gildings that can be even more powerful when coming from people with strong ancestors :D

Anyway, just a couple of ideas. :)
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Re: More Dreams

Postby Scilly_guy » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:51 pm

The whole thing with ancestral worship is that people who successfully survive in this survival game don't have decent ancestors. Ancestral worship should only be about reducing the pain of permadeath rather than giving you a boost.

I like the idea of different types of dream though.
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Re: More Dreams

Postby MrPunchers » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:12 pm

Seem op and bottable -1
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Re: More Dreams

Postby DaniAngione » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:22 pm

MrPunchers wrote:Seem op and bottable -1


I agree, it's easily bottable

I don't think this should become a limit to ambition and development, however. I'd rather see security increased instead of development potential reduced.
Doesn't seem to be a major interest though, probably some ominous relationship between the most prominent exploiting/botting and the major sources of income in the community :geek:

Under that logic then farming should CLEARLY be removed from the game as it is the easiest thing to bot and generates OP food, OP mulch, OP curios, OP animals...
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Re: More Dreams

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:42 pm

Bottable is what comes after something is farmable in the first place, much like Cat Gold, Strange Crystals, Odd Tuber, etc. Anyone recall the chicken coop setup to farm golden eggs?

DaniAngione wrote:I don't think this should become a limit to ambition and development, however.

Completely agree. Nice ideas. I'd love to see something more done with these.
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Re: More Dreams

Postby r21187 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:52 pm

wait whut? since when you can improve the cow cones'?!


i have to try that!
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Re: More Dreams

Postby Teleskop » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:19 am

it should spawn only nightmares after u see ozzy without shirt
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Re: More Dreams

Postby jorb » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:46 am

Loftar ranted to me about stuff like this the other day, so it will probably happen at some point.
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