SSL for website.

[Fostik]

SSL certificates became easy to get thing, and browsers sanctions against websites without SSL certificates is annoying.
http://joxi.ru/l2ZKjdGs8kWN3A

I think this would be cool i website will work with https protocol, at least it can be letsencrypt.

[shubla]

There indeed is SSL for the website but its not very easy to use and therefore 99% of people dont use it because it needs to be manually enabled for most browsers.
I totaly agree that devs should get some real verified SSL/TLS whatever certificates that work on default on most major browsers. There are free alternatives.

http://dolda2000.com/
You can download certificates for HnH from there.

[Fostik]

It's self-singed, will be always unsafe.

[MagicManICT]

It's self-singed, will be always unsafe.

A self-signed cert is as safe as any other cert as long as you trust the person that issued it. The issue is that certs just aren't safe period, at least by today's standard*. You're just used to being led around by the nose by "industry standards.

*EDIT: I should say by what the latest forms of encryption and security. There are newer methods that could be safer, but it's a matter of getting them as widely adopted. They are keeping the certificate standards up to date, but the same weakness is still at the heart of the method. No, it's not an easy hack, but it is still a potential.

[sabinati]

It's self-singed, will be always unsafe.

A self-signed cert is as safe as any other cert as long as you trust the person that issued it.

To be absolutely secure, key verification without cryptographic proof should always – not only on this page – be carried out out-of-band, such as asking a known party for the correct fingerprint in person or over a telephone.

TLDR call loftar on the phone to verify the key

[shubla]

For gods sake loftar. Start using the let's encrypt certificates already.
I am getting tired of my browser constantly telling me that your certificates are not to be trusted, then I must press the "continue anyway" button. Its very annoying.

You remind me of people who refuse to vaccinate their children because of big pharma.
You refuse to use proper free certificates in your website because of some big scary jews that are associated in the business.

[Granger]

No, he refuses because a certificate that is validated against trusted certifiers (that paid the browser vendors to have their trust anchor included) are less safe than a self signed certificate that was pinned in the browser. Because with the former any of the 'trused' issuers can sign a valid certificate for any domain, abuse of this (eg. signing one for google.com, but not for google) has already happened more than once.

[shubla]

No, he refuses because a certificate that is validated against trusted certifiers (that paid the browser vendors to have their trust anchor included) are less safe than a self signed certificate that was pinned in the browser. Because with the former any of the 'trused' issuers can sign a valid certificate for any domain, abuse of this (eg. signing one for google.com, but not for google) has already happened more than once.

Still its dumb af.
NO ONE cares about loftars opinion or what some small gaming-related website uses when they decide those things.
Its just idiotic that so many people suffer a lot because of some silly thing that loftar has against something like that.

[Granger]

NO ONE cares about [others] opinion

This mindset seems to be a widespread problem among the members of this forum, a sad display of the shortcomings of mankind.

Maybe try to understand the opinion of others and the reasoning that lead them toward these, them you might come up with an argument that they're willing to follow.

[shubla]

NO ONE cares about [others] opinion

This mindset seems to be a widespread problem among the members of this forum, a sad display of the shortcomings of mankind.

Maybe try to understand the opinion of others and the reasoning that lead them toward these, them you might come up with an argument that they're willing to follow.

I don't think that loftar is justified to make so many people suffer because of something silly like that.
Your post is a sad display of how sadistic a man can be.

Current system is way more unsafe than jew-signed ssl. Because most people probably are using http version of the site, or at least I am pretty sure of it. Maybe loftar has some more accurate numbers about it.