Survival Requirement Sucks

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Re: Survival Requirement Sucks

Postby Massa » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:04 am

Uriel wrote:I like surv cap.

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Re: Survival Requirement Sucks

Postby stickman » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:36 pm

the animal should be capped to the highest survival it was damaged with. Otherwise all you do is encourage cheesing animals...

Early world you could use 4 guys to take down a bear using the actual combat system.... OR.... you could lure it to the water... bring over the guy with higher survival and kill it with a boar spear by cheesing it to get the highest q

Apparently alot of you think cheesing animals from pali's or from boats is the way the game should be continued to be played. manipulating the system by using non damaging combat moves to assist is also is just cheesing the system imo and shows that its not designed properly.

if everyone is just working around this requirement then it should be changed.
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Re: Survival Requirement Sucks

Postby Sarge » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:06 pm

stickman wrote:Early world you could use 4 guys to take down a bear using the actual combat system.... OR.... you could lure it to the water... bring over the guy with higher survival and kill it with a boar spear by cheesing it to get the highest q

Apparently alot of you think cheesing animals from pali's or from boats is the way the game should be continued to be played. manipulating the system by using non damaging combat moves to assist is also is just cheesing the system imo and shows that its not designed properly.

if everyone is just working around this requirement then it should be changed.

Yes, I agree. We're playing all kinds of non-intended cheesing styles that we should not and there is a fuckton that needs changing.

stickman wrote:the animal should be capped to the highest survival it was damaged with. Otherwise all you do is encourage cheesing animals...

How does this deter alt spamming and similar abuse though, when we are agreeing that we are looking for a legitimate and sensible hunting system that can't be circumvented?
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Re: Survival Requirement Sucks

Postby shubla » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:09 pm

I totally agree that there is probably more harm off the survival cap than there is benefit from it...
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Re: Survival Requirement Sucks

Postby jorb » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:14 pm

A soft cap still leaves the day one problems of a lot of animals cheesed for high q bones. Skeptical.
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Re: Survival Requirement Sucks

Postby stickman » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:21 pm

hard cap it to the highest survival who dealt damage then.... day one the highest guy might have 30 survival... so the animal q will cap at 30. the guys with 10 survival can still help him out though without lowering it. would encourage more group hunting.
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Re: Survival Requirement Sucks

Postby Granger » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:23 pm

jorb wrote: Skeptical.

And rightfully so.

I would even go a step further and factor in more things, so pure UA/MC, STR, AGI, CON characters destroy the quality even more.
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Re: Survival Requirement Sucks

Postby azrid » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:17 pm

stickman wrote:hard cap it to the highest survival who dealt damage then.... day one the highest guy might have 30 survival... so the animal q will cap at 30. the guys with 10 survival can still help him out though without lowering it. would encourage more group hunting.

Incredibly stupid idea as it forces you to make high survival alt with no other skills.
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Re: Survival Requirement Sucks

Postby wonder-ass » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:19 pm

azrid wrote:
stickman wrote:hard cap it to the highest survival who dealt damage then.... day one the highest guy might have 30 survival... so the animal q will cap at 30. the guys with 10 survival can still help him out though without lowering it. would encourage more group hunting.

Incredibly stupid idea as it forces you to make high survival alt with no other skills.


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Re: Survival Requirement Sucks

Postby Kaios » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:22 pm

azrid wrote:
stickman wrote:hard cap it to the highest survival who dealt damage then.... day one the highest guy might have 30 survival... so the animal q will cap at 30. the guys with 10 survival can still help him out though without lowering it. would encourage more group hunting.

Incredibly stupid idea as it forces you to make high survival alt with no other skills.


???

You don’t need an alt, you get high surv on a main and kill stuff easily anyways. Do you think high q bones come from trolls or what?
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