reinforced palisades

[synaris]

i'v no doubt that this has been suggested before but here's my take on it.

this is intended to be a middle ground between palisade and brick wall.

i want to be able to

1: reinforce an existing palisade segment by right clicking it selecting reinforce and using 1 bone glue 10 bones and one metal nugget of any kind (it should look like its been reinforced with shiny white bones). giving that segment 1500 more HP and 15 more soak (4,000 hp and 40 soak total)

2: reinforce the palisade from behind with 20 logs 2 leather and 5 rope. it should take up 2 tiles of space and look like diagnal blocks of wood are propping up the palisade. this would give that segment 1,000 more HP (these are destroyed when the palisade segment is)

3:defend the front with large wooden spikes taking up 2 tiles each. that come in 3 varieties. a plain wooden spike made with 20 logs 1 bone glue and 2 rope with 10 soak 500 HP and deals 1% of your soft HP in damage per tick when you destroy it. a bone tipped spike made with the above materials plus 5 bones, with 800 HP 15 soak and hits you for 2% of your soft HP when it is attacked. and an iron tipped wooden spike made with the wooden spikes materials plus 2 cast iron nuggets, with 1200 HP 25 soak and dealing 3% of your total soft HP per destroy tick. battering rams can destroy spikes without any harm coming to the rammer.

yes with everything the palisade with take up 5 tiles per segment and you cannot have spiked on the front AND back nor can you reinforce it on both sides. this is meant to help you last until you can obtain a brick wall.

too OP? too weak? better ideas? materials wrong? discuss.

edit: forgot this initially, but in the case of corners where reinforcements would overlap, you spent 3 times the materials to get a corner reinforcment that effects the cornerpost and the 2 segments next to it. in addition you can make a spike attached to a cornerpost at a diagnal angle.

[shubla]

Pointless. Just build brickwall.
Making brickwall is way easier than using 20 bones + 1 metal nugget for each palisade segment.
Somekind of spikes would be cool.
Or something that you can make to keep people off your walls.

[Ukhata]

i still miss some of the salem type of defences here.
something to defend while you are offline would be good i think......
dunno what the current take is on an attack, if you can just walz though a pallisade with a 500+ str char and fuck up everything inside in a manner of minutes..
if so then some active defenses would be nice

[Baldarich]

i still miss some of the salem type of defences here.
something to defend while you are offline would be good i think......
dunno what the current take is on an attack, if you can just walz though a pallisade with a 500+ str char and fuck up everything inside in a manner of minutes..
if so then some active defenses would be nice

Yeah only good thing about salem is the defense system
It would be really cool if there would be a more expensive wall then the palisade that uses stone since we have alot of stone types now
And something like braziers that take off hp when you perfrorm a crime

[barra]

Yeah only good thing about salem is the defense system
It would be really cool if there would be a more expensive wall then the palisade that uses stone since we have alot of stone types now
And something like braziers that take off hp when you perfrorm a crime

Brazier-style HP damage is already built into the claim system. if the stone wall doesn't require metal, people will just build it instead of a pali and if the stonewall does require metal, people will just build brick. And the metal cost is the main reason people delay building brick.

[Ukhata]

Yeah only good thing about salem is the defense system
It would be really cool if there would be a more expensive wall then the palisade that uses stone since we have alot of stone types now
And something like braziers that take off hp when you perfrorm a crime

Brazier-style HP damage is already built into the claim system. if the stone wall doesn't require metal, people will just build it instead of a pali and if the stonewall does require metal, people will just build brick. And the metal cost is the main reason people delay building brick.

aaah, but you cant build more claim damages....
but you could build more braziers

[barra]

aaah, but you cant build more claim damages....
but you could build more braziers

It's been ages since I played Salem, but I think braziers had a cap on damage.

[Ukhata]

aaah, but you cant build more claim damages....
but you could build more braziers

It's been ages since I played Salem, but I think braziers had a cap on damage.

it had, no longer. now you can build a wall of braziers again if you want to.

[synaris]

Pointless. Just build brickwall.
Making brickwall is way easier than using 20 bones + 1 metal nugget for each palisade segment.
Somekind of spikes would be cool.
Or something that you can make to keep people off your walls.

cast iron is MUCH easier to get than steel.

and i made sure to point out that this wasnt meant to compete with or outdo the brick wall.

[LadyV]

I'm not opposed to new defences or ways to upgrade existing ones. However I would prefer leaving specifics to Jorb and Loftar.