Chalcopyrite needs to yield more metal

[DisKagel]

So, I remember a thread like this a while ago, but I don't think it got enough attention and I think that making a thread about this would (hopefully) make a change. On the RoB, it says there is an 8% chance of yielding copper and a 4% chance of yielding cast iron (12% total smelt chance). As stated on the other thread and from my own personal experience, Chalcopyrite does not seem to have a 12% yield and instead rarely shows anything. After smelting 3 batches of Chalcopyrite, I usually get 0-1 bars of metal, which I should actually (by chance) be getting a total of around 3 bars a batch. This is very time consuming because of the constant grinding with a random low yield rate and even more time consuming for newer players who have only access to Chalcopyrite and only an axe to mine it, so I propose that either Chalcopyrite gives a higher yield rate, or as someone said in the other thread, it should instead give many nuggets which could then be turned into metals (and yes I know the whole system is chance, but it is very tedious).

[spavaloo]

Metal shouldn't be easy to get for newer players/characters.

Limited resources force meaningful decision-making regarding their allotment.

[Jacobian123]

Get the related mining skills and you'll have a much better chance at getting the metals. Believe me, I smelt chalc all the time and I get at least 3 bars of metal per batch.

[DisKagel]

Metal shouldn't be easy to get for newer players/characters.

Limited resources force meaningful decision-making regarding their allotment.

Yes I do agree with that, but I'm not sure that I highlighted the main point which was that Chalcopyrite does not actually show its 12% yield chance

Get the related mining skills and you'll have a much better chance at getting the metals. Believe me, I smelt chalc all the time and I get at least 3 bars of metal per batch.

I have all the related metal skills, but the main problem with Chalcopyrite is that it does not actually show its 12% yield chance, and perhaps changing it to more commonly yield nuggets would be more useful

[vatas]

I have all the related metal skills, but the main problem with Chalcopyrite is that it does not actually show its 12% yield chance, and perhaps changing it to more commonly yield nuggets would be more useful

How many smelters have you smelted? If its only a few, you may have simply had bad luck. Also I'll specify just in case that only the skills of the Hearthling, that mined the ore, count.

[DisKagel]

I have all the related metal skills, but the main problem with Chalcopyrite is that it does not actually show its 12% yield chance, and perhaps changing it to more commonly yield nuggets would be more useful

How many smelters have you smelted? If it's only a few, you may have simply had bad luck. Also I'll specify just in case that only the skills of the Hearthling, that mined the ore, count.

I have smelted a lot by now, and the only skill I do not have that applies to ore is Deep Artifice, but that skill does not apply to Chalcopyrite because Deep Artifice only affects the yield chance of wrought iron. Perhaps people are not understanding the point of this thread and instead trying to prove that I am wrong, but the point is that Chalcopyrite does not yield what it should which makes mining and smelting more tedious than it is, and it should perhaps be buffed a bit or changed to oftenly yield nuggets and sometimes yield bars.

[Hasta]

Deep Artifice only affects the yield chance of wrought iron

Aside from your chalcopyrite crusade, this one is wrong. Quoting the description, "You enjoy the greatest possible success when mining and forging wrought iron".

[Kaios]

Yeah, you need deep artifice to get the most out of the ore you mine. In my experience Chalcopyrite usually yields around 3-4 bars per smelter, usually at a ratio of 1 copper 3 iron for example.

[DisKagel]

Deep Artifice only affects the yield chance of wrought iron

Aside from your chalcopyrite crusade, this one is wrong. Quoting the description, "You enjoy the greatest possible success when mining and forging wrought iron".

Ah, but that it says when mining, not when forging, meaning that you have a higher chance to get ore from a vein, not a higher chance of getting a bar from ore. Anyways, I think I will give up on trying to buff Chalcopyrite because obviously most people disapprove of my attempts to change Chalcopyrite from a pretty bad ore to something more useful

[Hasta]

"Greater chance of success when mining" implies, in my experience, higher chance for mined ore to yield metal when smelted, as well.