Decrease flour outage.

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Decrease flour outage.

Postby Fostik » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:16 pm

Well, if someone remember, when H&H was first presented, flour recipe required 25 seeds.
But there was no way to:
- Get 15 seeds from plant, only 10 (for that time)
- Get even more seeds from plant, as now.
- Speed up plants growth speed
- There was not so many foods to replace pies.
- There was no good curios, that allowed to make big claim for big fields, duh

So devs decided to decrease this value to 5 seeds per flour.
And now this system is little broken, it's not a big work to harvest 10000 seeds (a barrel)
1000 seeds (1 bucket) = 1 barrel of flour. (say whaaaat?)
Hundreds of pies making like it's a pie fabric!
People can:
- Make bigger fields.
- Get x15 seeds for harvesting plant, and even more with farmer credo.
- Speed up growing speed with credo, kingdom.

So i thing will be fair, if 1 bucker will no equal to 1 barrel, and flour outage will be decreased.
50 seeds per 0.5 flour could be cool.
25 seeds per 0.5 flour would be optional.
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Re: Decrease flour outage.

Postby Fratari » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:11 pm

That might be true for large villages (I stress might, and i assume they are botting), but for hermits with small claims and anyone who doesn't bot this would only create unnecessary grind. Also, I've never seen a time where flour cost 25 seeds, or even the equivalent of 25 seeds back when they didn't stack.
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Re: Decrease flour outage.

Postby Audiosmurf » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:16 pm

Fratari wrote:That might be true for large villages (I stress might, and i assume they are botting), but for hermits with small claims and anyone who doesn't bot this would only create unnecessary grind. Also, I've never seen a time where flour cost 25 seeds, or even the equivalent of 25 seeds back when they didn't stack.


To my recollection, at the very start of hafen the cost was 25. I don't think it should be drastically increased, 10 or 15 would be reasonable.
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Re: Decrease flour outage.

Postby shubla » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:44 pm

There was a reason why it was lowered. Because it was too many seeds required for a small amount of flours.

Only reason to decrease it would be to add more pointless boring and annoying grind.
Not spending 6 hours farming your fields every day is not that bad thing.
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Re: Decrease flour outage.

Postby Fostik » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:12 pm

shubla wrote:Only reason to decrease it would be to add more pointless boring and annoying grind.
Not spending 6 hours farming your fields every day is not that bad thing.


Yes because devs points on "press x to get max stats"

Fratari wrote:That might be true for large villages (I stress might, and i assume they are botting), but for hermits with small claims and anyone who doesn't bot this would only create unnecessary grind. Also, I've never seen a time where flour cost 25 seeds, or even the equivalent of 25 seeds back when they didn't stack.


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Re: Decrease flour outage.

Postby NOOBY93 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:52 pm

Fostik wrote:
shubla wrote:Only reason to decrease it would be to add more pointless boring and annoying grind.
Not spending 6 hours farming your fields every day is not that bad thing.


Yes because devs points on "press x to get max stats"

Fratari wrote:That might be true for large villages (I stress might, and i assume they are botting), but for hermits with small claims and anyone who doesn't bot this would only create unnecessary grind. Also, I've never seen a time where flour cost 25 seeds, or even the equivalent of 25 seeds back when they didn't stack.


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Re: Decrease flour outage.

Postby Headchef » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:49 pm

Increase difficulty in flour production and only botters shall eat up until edge of 300% efficiency.

Keep it same and also casuals can eat loads and get somewhat decent stats.

Considering how stats scale this is better in my opinion.

Also note there is no current max stats soooo... there's no such thing as press x for max stats :D
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Re: Decrease flour outage.

Postby Fostik » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:13 pm

Headchef wrote:Increase difficulty in flour production and only botters shall eat up until edge of 300% efficiency.

Keep it same and also casuals can eat loads and get somewhat decent stats.

Considering how stats scale this is better in my opinion.

Also note there is no current max stats soooo... there's no such thing as press x for max stats :D


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Re: Decrease flour outage.

Postby NOOBY93 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:23 pm

Fostik wrote:
Headchef wrote:Increase difficulty in flour production and only botters shall eat up until edge of 300% efficiency.

Keep it same and also casuals can eat loads and get somewhat decent stats.

Considering how stats scale this is better in my opinion.

Also note there is no current max stats soooo... there's no such thing as press x for max stats :D


Never seen you supported any idea in this forum; you always trying to say something reverse for the idea, like you have no opinion, only a desire of confront.
I do not take you seriously.

He's right, though. Making stat grinding harder only benefits those who let their bots do the hard work for them. Because of the diminishing returns nature of stats, a situation where botter has 100 thousaund stats and casual has 10 thousand is better than a situation where botter has 100 stats and casual has 10.
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Re: Decrease flour outage.

Postby Audiosmurf » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:31 pm

Fostik wrote:
Headchef wrote:Increase difficulty in flour production and only botters shall eat up until edge of 300% efficiency.

Keep it same and also casuals can eat loads and get somewhat decent stats.

Considering how stats scale this is better in my opinion.

Also note there is no current max stats soooo... there's no such thing as press x for max stats :D


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