Rebalance the amount of quests required for a Credo

[vatas]

Each credo should have static amount of quests, regardless of Credos completed or death count.

+Less incentive for people to intentionally kill their characters.
+Allows individually balancing the Credos and their quests, can make player do loads of easy quests or couple of hard depending on the Credo (looking at you, Mystic and Nomad.)

+/-Less planning for the optimal order of acquiring Credos (people tend to bypass this with killing alts.)

-People may complain that difficult Credo they worked hard for is now too easy to acquire.
-People may complain that is unfair for people to have Credos that are now harder to acquire.
-Balancing can be hard

Alternative (Possibly bit complicated) idea: Credos that are prerequisites to Credo you're pursuing either don't count or count less for the credos completed for the calculation of required amount of quests.

[azrid]

Reducing quest amount per suicide should just be removed completely. Its mega stupid.

[synaris]

+1 just have more/harder quests per credo tier.

Reducing quest amount per suicide should just be removed completely. Its mega stupid.

eh, it'd make sense if you have to do less quests for the credos you already had.

[shubla]

-People may complain that difficult Credo they worked hard for is now too easy to acquire.
-People may complain that is unfair for people to have Credos that are now harder to acquire.

Game is in alpha, so these are not valid complaints.

[jordancoles]

4-5 quests per level would be ideal.

Anything over that, specially with underground questgivers, is just painful

If you were to do all credos currently, the last credo would take you 32 quests per level. It's insane.

[jorb]

If you were to do all credos currently, the last credo would take you 32 quests per level. It's insane.

But by design, though. The intention is not that you should reach all of them on a single character.

I have to read OPs request as "please remove gains from death", and, perhaps we should, but I think the quest difficulty should scale with more credos.

[jordancoles]

If you were to do all credos currently, the last credo would take you 32 quests per level. It's insane.

But by design, though. The intention is not that you should reach all of them on a single character.

I have to read OPs request as "please remove gains from death", and, perhaps we should, but I think the quest difficulty should scale with more credos.

Scale within reason then, and why increase the need for alts? Isn't lowering the use of alts also a goal of yours?

[waga]

If you were to do all credos currently, the last credo would take you 32 quests per level. It's insane.

But by design, though. The intention is not that you should reach all of them on a single character.

I have to read OPs request as "please remove gains from death", and, perhaps we should, but I think the quest difficulty should scale with more credos.

Scale within reason then, and why increase the need for alts? Isn't lowering the use of alts also a goal of yours?

I would love an answer to this ...

[jorb]

Isn't lowering the use of alts also a goal of yours?

Sure, but I also want differentiated characters, and perhaps I have to make tradeoffs.

[shubla]

I also want differentiated character.

You either have to increase difficulty of making characters that have all credos or admit your defeat and decrease it!