Nerf bee stings

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Nerf bee stings

Postby jordancoles » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:03 am

Bee stings are ridiculous as they currently are.

I just took 30 hhp damage on my farmer for taking honey into a barrel from just one sting.
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The damage of the stings is unavoidable, and they take forever to heal even with the only treatment available.

The worst part is that these stupid things increase in damage as you accumulate more and more stings.
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After talking in our Discord I would say that these stings should not increase in damage based on previous stings, the stings themselves should only deal something like 1-5 dmg and they should heal on their own much quicker. If not those things it would be nice to get some sort of beekeeper gear which would significantly reduce the damage and frequency of these stings.

If you want to discourage alt abuse then why add bullshit wounds for such a menial task? It brings nothing to the game other than heavy-handed tedium at the moment

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Re: Nerf bee stings

Postby Pinkie-Pie » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:31 am

This or give us an apiaries mask or a way to smoke out the bees or something. You've thrown at us huge amounts of damage that we have no effective way of dealing with except by using alts or going without wax and honey.

You can't put just a huge HHP penalty for something and then give us no way to effectively deal with it.

Its going to be a much worse problem next world when characters don't have enough Con to spare like 50+ HHP to harvesting their farm and don't have the resources to deal with it in the very limited fashion we currently have.

Edit: The little hole-in-the-wall village I was a part of recently, 5 hives. 5. Over 60 HHP. Huge villages have over 60 HIVES!
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Re: Nerf bee stings

Postby jordancoles » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:35 am

Pinkie-Pie wrote:This or give us an apiaries mask or a way to smoke out the bees or something. You've thrown at us huge amounts of damage that we have no effective way of dealing with except by using alts or going without wax and honey.

You can't put just a huge HHP penalty for something and then give us no way to effectively deal with it.

Its going to be a much worse problem next world when characters don't have enough Con to spare like 50+ HHP to harvesting their farm and don't have the resources to deal with it in the very limited fashion we currently have.

Edit: The little hole-in-the-wall village I was a part of recently, 5 hives. 5. Over 60 HHP. Huge villages have over 60 HIVES!

We have over 60 hives, yes
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Re: Nerf bee stings

Postby azrid » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:21 am

How about you collect waxberries if you are such a huge casual.
It was a wax seal nerf.
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Re: Nerf bee stings

Postby jordancoles » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:33 am

azrid wrote:How about you collect waxberries if you are such a huge casual.
It was a wax seal nerf.

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Re: Nerf bee stings

Postby Aceb » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:38 am

Yea Coles has the point. Before I used to pay noobs to collect my wax (it was risk to steal it from me but well I payed them for that okay?).

Recently two newbies were in desperate for money so they ask me if I can let them collect honey and wax for money. Less than 50 beehavies in total. Both almost died from accumulating the stings, which I found quite absurd, as if there would be only one of them, THEY WOULD DIE FROM IT. ¦]

Feeling actually sorry to them, I doubled they payment for the effort. But still, a characters having a somewhere of ~250hp, both being close to dying from collecting somewhere of ~25beehives from wax and honey? lol.


I must say it is totally random as it happened to me to accumulate a lot of that wound where there were times when I got like only ~40HP of it. But still it is ridiculus that a little developed sprucecap can die from it. Like, for me, sprucecaps were source of low Q wax for trading and now, they're afraid of touching it unless they're desparate this world.

And it lasts so freaking long, that it highly hurts noobs while other people will just use alt. Rarity of stings must be either increased or the wound itself should be decreased to 2 points.
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Re: Nerf bee stings

Postby azrid » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:04 pm

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Re: Nerf bee stings

Postby Pinkie-Pie » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:40 pm

azrid wrote:How about you collect waxberries if you are such a huge casual.
It was a wax seal nerf.

I'm all for more things that can hurt you and give cost, but something has gotta give. Either the damage nerfed, the kelp cream buffed, some way to lower the chances, something.
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Re: Nerf bee stings

Postby synaris » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:28 pm

same shit different thing. we've all bitched about the bee stings. i dont think the devs care. and yes you're right about everything. they deal far too much damage, its easy for newer players to die from them and farming is now a dangerous job.

hell i remember harvesting wax before i noticed the update was added, my alt has over 500 max hit points, i was down to 114 max HP before i noticed that i was getting stung at all. i could have lost an alt just because im not accustomed to looking at my health while FARMING. although the way i use it, that alt is practically my main at this point.
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Re: Nerf bee stings

Postby Reyajh » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:48 pm

I love this. I'm totally fine with it as it is... Because of this, can I get some superbee powers, mehaps? Perhaps I might get the Beee-vis award, eh?!/
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