Scholarly accounts change

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Scholarly accounts change

Postby pheonix » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:59 am

Currently Scholarly accounts are limited to 10 a day and a random amount per credo and i was thinking that perhaps it should instead be based off a combination of a persons intellect and lore and maybe will as well to determine the amount of copies per curio possible and per day. so for example the amount of accounts with your pen per week is say base = ((int*will*lore)^(1/3))/10 and per curio i like that its random but it be nice if it was possible that the higher stats increased the possible random number so instead of 1-5 atm it could be potentially have a chance at 1-20 with higher int and lore.

I say this because isnt it feasible that a highly intelligent and wise old scholar should be able to write more about an item then a novice?

Also when you make an account of a jotun gem is says its a broken gem for some reason i dont know if thats a bug or not.
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Re: Scholarly accounts change

Postby Ardennesss » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:05 am

I say this because isnt it feasible that a highly intelligent and wise old scholar should be able to write more about an item then a novice?
Makes sense to me. It does feel slightly lackluster that higher stats only raise soft-caps and don't typically provide any further benefits. The only risk I see is devaluing curiosities during endgame, such that you can create 1 tiny abacus and then populate an entire cupboard of scholarly accounts to match. The exact formula that stats raise would just need to be fine tuned, and possibly a higher hard cap on accounts create-able per day.
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Re: Scholarly accounts change

Postby Dakkan » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:48 am

Especially considering how nightmarish it is getting this credo, either via time cost or exp cost. Scholarly accounts need to be a little bit better.
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Re: Scholarly accounts change

Postby Granger » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:03 am

Voicing for the next charisma, are we?
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Re: Scholarly accounts change

Postby pppp » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:28 am

Granger wrote:Voicing for the next charisma, are we?

Exactly my thought.
Duplicate more overpowered curios to get more lore to duplicate even more overpowered curios.

The current account cap is fine. I could complain that my scholar is kind of selfish now and can not make enough accounts to feed other chars and for trading. But then, any amount of accounts can be burned with C&M in no time.
Yes, that single account you can buy in CF is mine.

If anything then maybe a quest reward / rare drop / localized resource to remove some of wit dullness (=worth 1 more account). Possibly studying a rare curio (but not it's account) could give such effect. Getting lore events (events, not xp points from quest givers) could work towards quicker regen.

I would ask for some magic but it would be already broken at this point.

Still, if anything, then no more than 50% increase at maximum grind.
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Re: Scholarly accounts change

Postby pheonix » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:38 am

Granger wrote:Voicing for the next charisma, are we?

i was wondering how long until you came here whinging about stats. We all know you want stat caps so you can log on once in a blue fucking moon and hope to stand a chance against a faction fighter. Here is the thing I advocate for things to make the game fun and friendly to people who like sandbox eternal type games more animals more foods more options all round POSITIVE THINGS, everytime you open your mouth its the same thing waaa i hate this... waaaa i hate that.... nerf this.. nerf that.

atm this credo is good, but the payoff needs to be higher after the study skulls, pearls, four leaf clovers which made this a painful credo to do over 100+ quests and giving us an incentive to log on and grind intellect to boost curios is a good thing. Oh and since your blind as a bat by doing this it means next world charisma can be toned down so that curios can be king again and make those who are scholars able to trade highly demanded curios and shockingly jorb might add more really rare ones because of this credo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRHVMi3LxZE
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Re: Scholarly accounts change

Postby Dakkan » Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:37 pm

There is a nice surplus of rare curios that has built up over 2 years now, but soon this backlog will be fully studied. Finishing this credo was the first time I really needed to abuse questing, spending over 1.5m exp for C&M. It was a ton of work even with this method that probably won't be feasible next world.

I don't think I would argue for a higher max per curio, otherwise things like golden egg farms might start becoming more practical. But a slightly higher total daily account might make this credo a little more appealing. Something though, it needs something.
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Re: Scholarly accounts change

Postby Granger » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:34 pm

pheonix wrote:
Granger wrote:Voicing for the next charisma, are we?

i was wondering how long until you came here whinging about stats. [yadayada]

My concern is about yet another mechanic getting setup to be exploited like charisma currently is.
I'm sorry for you being unable to see that as something positive.
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Re: Scholarly accounts change

Postby pheonix » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:00 pm

Dakkan wrote:There is a nice surplus of rare curios that has built up over 2 years now, but soon this backlog will be fully studied. Finishing this credo was the first time I really needed to abuse questing, spending over 1.5m exp for C&M. It was a ton of work even with this method that probably won't be feasible next world.

I don't think I would argue for a higher max per curio, otherwise things like golden egg farms might start becoming more practical. But a slightly higher total daily account might make this credo a little more appealing. Something though, it needs something.



From what ive seen this credo is definitely a late world to be feasible unless you only did it via suicide credo and even then it will still take a long time to achieve because of no realm buffs and lower quest outputs. So when it says study 6 beaver tails you have to wait a week to finish just that one quest. i would still say it keeps the random chance of 1 account per curio as it should be random but having the ability for a higher possible chance is imo the something it needs.

Granger the Retard wrote:My concern is about yet another mechanic getting setup to be exploited like charisma currently is.
I'm sorry for you being unable to see that as something positive.

pheonix wrote:Oh and since your blind as a bat by doing this it means next world charisma can be toned down so that curios can be king again and make those who are scholars able to trade highly demanded curios and shockingly jorb might add more really rare ones because of this credo.

Learn to read dipshit, this is why no one likes you, you want it nerfed heavily/removed i want it balanced because its a good mechanic but with bad scaling.
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Re: Scholarly accounts change

Postby Ardennesss » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:05 pm

Granger wrote:My concern is about yet another mechanic getting setup to be exploited like charisma currently is.
lol another quality Granger post from the peanut gallery of irrelevant members of the community.
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