rework metal Q

[ctopolon4]

remove no skilled forging (not have metallurgy skill for higher chance of the cast iron )
add water in wrought iron recipe to slow down Q
add 48hrs timer to recycle iron (wounds when smithing)

[Lyrroth]

add water in wrought iron recipe to slow down Q

gtfo with rest

[azrid]

First 2 are good.
Wounds just force alts.

[ctopolon4]

Wounds just force alts.

i dont against some one to have 3 alts with credos with 1k 2k 3k softcap for endless smith, im against 0 skilled alts for wax harvest, fields replant, scouting, take stuff to offline, offline lawspeakers, body block hf block, etc (oftop)

[azrid]

Only if it wasn't so easy to get these credos and stats.
First remove suicide credoing, charisma bonus for questing and fep % mods.

[AntiBlitz]

actually, i like the idea of plunging the metal in water.

[zebratul]

+ to all those ideas. Very good ones, good job.
The «no-skill-forging» is the most backwards thing in the whole spiralling loop and should be gone.

And, imho, at the moment levels of wound generation is ok. Just sleep them off.
Another different wound wont hurt normal people much (as it will tick down separately, inviting them to do different things like beekeeping and sleep more effectively), but will stop bots who smith 24/7.

BUT! The new world is needed for the implementation. Otherwise, people who have top Q now, will forever have it.

[Lyrroth]

yeeee lets punish people with single profession even more, using botting as an excuse for a wound that doesnt make a sense in any shape or form

[MagicManICT]

yeeee lets punish people with single profession even more, using botting as an excuse for a wound that doesnt make a sense in any shape or form

I don't know a smith one that doesn't have a serious burn scar somewhere on their body. Accidents happen to even the most careful people. Even robots fail for the most unexplained reasons in a factory, so what can you expect from a human body?

But I'm getting annoyed with the "wounds as a means to nerf botting." It's a horrible idea, and anyone that is doing their mundane via botting isn't going to care about a wound or dozen.

[Lyrroth]

yeeee lets punish people with single profession even more, using botting as an excuse for a wound that doesnt make a sense in any shape or form

I don't know a smith one that doesn't have a serious burn scar somewhere on their body. Accidents happen to even the most careful people. Even robots fail for the most unexplained reasons in a factory, so what can you expect from a human body?

But I'm getting annoyed with the "wounds as a means to nerf botting." It's a horrible idea, and anyone that is doing their mundane via botting isn't going to care about a wound or dozen.

That's why there is a difference between accidents like Pricked by the Spindle and smacking yourself with a hammer on regular basic to get a wound so often because theres botting and other shit

and getting all the time wound during smithing because thats why i imagine someone want to achieve there