Are you supposed to be able to build a kiln in spawn?

[GenghisKhan44]

In the spawn world, where you begin as a spirit with no body, I had a couple of "experiences" that got me XP - one with a willow tree, and another I don't remember. Thanks to it, I was able to research foraging and pottery and build a kiln. And I might have fired it up with the q1 clay artefacts I'd made, if I hadn't made that new-old bed out of branches and slept in it, which blanked out all my progress and turned me back into a spirit with no characteristics.

I know you can dig clay, pull stuff off trees &c. But are you supposed to be able to get XP by accident before you burn yourself in the fire? It seems to me you shouldn't be able to do that. I never did get to test whether you keep what you learned - and whether that messes up some of the opening quests.

Wish I'd taken some photos, but I swear it happened.

[Adder1234]

In the spawn world, where you begin as a spirit with no body, I had a couple of "experiences" that got me XP - one with a willow tree, and another I don't remember. Thanks to it, I was able to research foraging and pottery and build a kiln. And I might have fired it up with the q1 clay artefacts I'd made, if I hadn't made that new-old bed out of branches and slept in it, which blanked out all my progress and turned me back into a spirit with no characteristics.

I know you can dig clay, pull stuff off trees &c. But are you supposed to be able to get XP by accident before you burn yourself in the fire? It seems to me you shouldn't be able to do that. I never did get to test whether you keep what you learned - and whether that messes up some of the opening quests.

Wish I'd taken some photos, but I swear it happened.

Don't know if it's a bug, but I do know that it can happen and that the devs are aware of it. I guess they just don't care.

[avros008]

You can get total 900 lp without crafting anytihng in spawn zone.

[vatas]

I tried unlocking swimming after someone on 8chan asked what happens if you go through the middle in gender selection. You can get enough LP for it if you dig some clay. In addition to tree and bush staff and have enough account bonus. You of get error message "You can't walk the world without body" though.

I figured that you can dig Acre Clay if you do it immediately before spending any energy, but haven't tried digging up Ball Clay.

[linkfanpc]

I tried unlocking swimming after someone on 8chan asked what happens if you go through the middle in gender selection. You can get enough LP for it if you dig some clay. In addition to tree and bush staff and have enough account bonus. You of get error message "You can't walk the world without body" though.

I figured that you can dig Acre Clay if you do it immediately before spending any energy, but haven't tried digging up Ball Clay.

Ball clay can be dug regardless of Energy, i always do it for the discovery LP in case i spawn far from a body of water.

[GenghisKhan44]

I tried unlocking swimming after someone on 8chan asked what happens if you go through the middle in gender selection. You can get enough LP for it if you dig some clay. In addition to tree and bush staff and have enough account bonus. You of get error message "You can't walk the world without body" though.

I figured that you can dig Acre Clay if you do it immediately before spending any energy, but haven't tried digging up Ball Clay.

The only thing that can't be dug up in spawn at less than 5000% energy is dirt.

The real question is: does the knowledge - learning foraging, pottery &c - go with you through the fire? And if so, does that break quests? Also, does it give an unfair advantage to players who exploit that?

I think we all know the answer to the last question is "no, it's really not worth it". But its relation to quests interests me.

[MagicManICT]

The real question is: does the knowledge - learning foraging, pottery &c - go with you through the fire? And if so, does that break quests? Also, does it give an unfair advantage to players who exploit that?

It does, and the last time I was able to pull this off myself (getting an xp event in the spawn room), the study wasn't checked for objects, so you came through with any loaded curios. Knowledge goes through with you. Been using this since the start of w8 to get early LP and hit the ground running with extra Surv and Expl.

No, the quests aren't broken. They look at what items you pick up, not the discovery event, though not sure about the "eating" one if it will flag if you are already in excess of the needed energy to heal, if it will flag the first time you eat if you were already over 8000, or will require you to drop below 8000 and eat again to get above.

[GenghisKhan44]

The real question is: does the knowledge - learning foraging, pottery &c - go with you through the fire? And if so, does that break quests? Also, does it give an unfair advantage to players who exploit that?

It does, and the last time I was able to pull this off myself (getting an xp event in the spawn room), the study wasn't checked for objects, so you came through with any loaded curios. Knowledge goes through with you. Been using this since the start of w8 to get early LP and hit the ground running with extra Surv and Expl.

Colour me impressed - and slightly irate that I slept in that pile of pine boughs! ._.

No, the quests aren't broken. They look at what items you pick up, not the discovery event, though not sure about the "eating" one if it will flag if you are already in excess of the needed energy to heal, if it will flag the first time you eat if you were already over 8000, or will require you to drop below 8000 and eat again to get above.

IIRC, one of the quests has you research "Foraging". You need that to get pottery, and thus I was able to get foraging (and pottery) ability in spawn.
But if you never had any problems with it, it mustn't be a problem.

[jorb]

Should, perhaps, be fixed, but there's also a part of me which thinks "gl, hf".

[MagicManICT]

IIRC, one of the quests has you research "Foraging". You need that to get pottery, and thus I was able to get foraging (and pottery) ability in spawn.
But if you never had any problems with it, it mustn't be a problem.

Now that you mention it... It's been so long ago since I abused this, I really don't recall exactly. I remember having some issues with the quests early on, but I think they got fixed, and don't recall the details.

Should, perhaps, be fixed, but there's also a part of me which thinks "gl, hf".

probably be a good idea just to eliminate a bug, though it doesn't really save any time. You'd spend same amount of time walking through the forest for those booster LP. (Or leave it and call it an easter egg.)