Reduce the Noise - A Request to Revive an 'Inner Party'

[Sarge]

The devs have admitted that they do not play the game at vet level. They probably don't have the time to develop and do that at the same time, if they do I would be amazed tbh. They can only make the best decisions with the information that is available to them and this is where my concern lies.

Honestly, since playing again this world and keeping up to speed with the forums I am astounded by the amount of noise by so few. If this game had tens of thousands of players the forums would likely contain so much nonsense it would be impossible to know what's valuable and what's not. (Trees from the something something?) This is what is already happening. I watch Jorb and Loftar trying to justify and defend their decisions to just about everyone commenting on patches and also trying to gain information from these comments but there's so much bullshit in there.

While I am not a fan of the exclusion of anyone in any way ever I can't see a better way to get genuine, informed, intelligent, comprehensive and accurate feedback to the devs (in short: remove the noise) than re-establish an Inner Party of sorts.

[Ants]

Or they could pretend to be random noobs, join villages and witness firsthand how people play. At this stage in the world even non-noob villages start looking for recruits, so it shouldn't be too hard.

They might even be able to join big faction villages if they admit to being the devs. They'd probably be used as slave labor, but they'd still learn a lot.

[Sarge]

Or they could pretend to be random noobs, join villages and witness firsthand how people play. At this stage in the world even non-noob villages start looking for recruits, so it shouldn't be too hard.

They might even be able to join big faction villages if they admit to being the devs. They'd probably be used as slave labor, but they'd still learn a lot.

The problem is exactly that there are a fuckton people on here who don't think they are noobs when they are and so many that just don't understand shit that needs to be gotten away from. The fact that you posted that suggestion is a decent example of what I'm getting at.

[Aceb]

Well maybe inner party that would be a combination of each major faction member + some of custom client makers + maybe a few outside of that circle who are well known community members... Other than that, I don't see it working.

[Headchef]

Well maybe inner party that would be a combination of each major faction member + some of custom client makers + maybe a few outside of that circle who are well known community members... Other than that, I don't see it working.

Yeah this.

[Granger]

AD wants more cairn changes I see

Or they might actually be interested in being productive when it comes to deliver noise free information to the developers, which you clearly didn't manage.

Given this prime example of the problem to solve, maybe the solution is to add a button to the forum with which the administrators (which are the developers) can one-click permanently remove the ability to post in C&I from accounts that generate noise - and set all accounts below a certain post count (like 50 or100) to premoderation needed for this board too so the idiots that run out of accounts to burn can't get in the way with new registrations.

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In any case that group would need to consist of all kind of players to not make it a 'for X only' circlejerk.

[Avu]

It's not noise that's affecting them. I specifically exchanged messages with them regarding how punishing satiations are came up with not one but two systems to alleviate it and what do they do? They spit in my face and everyone elses who has been asking for removal of satiations/hunger by nerfing satiations yet again.

Regarding questing which everyone focuses on even though it only really affects a minority of the playerbase (the rest didn't fucking bother since they are cancer anyway) the general consensus versus a few of the no lifers was remove hunger and lp rewards. They just capped them all for some reason. It still doesn't affect most of the playerbase. There are a few people from the top grinding factions that are now coming out of the woodwork and telling us its icicles instead of quests well woompy do it's not like you and AD don't have all of those claimed and botted to the second is there? Did you pm the devs about this? Probably and you got ignored. What you gonna do you got wait for 2021 for jorb to finish reading last years suggestions and for him to recolor every tree with snow.

[Aceb]

In any case that group would need to consist of all kind of players to not make it a 'for X only' circlejerk.

That's why I proposed, uh, 3 different groups? Even if all factions (somehow) manage to get into one page to go and try circlejerk jorbtar, there would be custom client makers and even if those will be merged into circlejerk, there still would be a third group consisting of people out of those 2 groups, that should be able to say "hey, that's not right!" or something. It should be hard to create such circle.

and set all accounts below a certain post count (like 50 or100) to premoderation needed for this board too so the idiots that run out of accounts to burn can't get in the way with new registrations.

While your idea is good one, You have to take into account, that even people who have +1k posts and are players that involved years of playing, they still have some minor or major issues of not understading a lot of things, while faction guys, usually dictaded by rat race, competition (and greatly improved knowledge of deeper stuff) have their knowledge expanded greatly. That's why Inner party voice of people who knows stuff, instead of whole playerbase "thinking" they know the stuff, would be nice to have, even if would mean to have some sort of inside C&I and outside C&I. If we aren't going to do it in this fashion, we will just have poorly implemented filter.

[Ardennesss]

It's pretty naive to think that "noise" is what's wrong with the game right now. Noise isn't the issue, jorb just doesn't want to listen to anyone - full stop. It doesn't matter who, or in what context.

[Vassteel]

It's pretty naive to think that "noise" is what's wrong with the game right now. Noise isn't the issue, jorb just doesn't want to listen to anyone - full stop. It doesn't matter who, or in what context.

well i wouldnt want to listen to any of you either. just take a look around the forum. its fuckin toxic here. even tho there are those that arent shitlords here it can be extremely demotivating. every single change the devs have pushed this year have been met with nothing more than whine and rage. personally i didnt like todays patch because i saw timegates but i then learned later on that im not effected by it no ever will be at my current rate.

Anyway, i dont see this working out at all. ever.

we all know what went down last time and this would be just setting up that same shit all over again. also you dont have representation for all the groups that play, how is a group of tryhard qchasers supposed to rep casual, players or make suggestions to improve NPE ( New Player Experience ) I dont know the numbers but i can say with 100% confidence that the retention rates are absolutely horrid