Possible potter clay buff

[Fostik]

It was mentioned in previous stream, that potter's clay is too hard to craft, and collect with enought amount.
You will need 225 hq bones, 45 fine clay and 45 feldspar to have a kiln, which is too much for decent villages, and i'm not speaking about hermits.
If we will speak about full set of requirements, hq ones: kiln, tar kiln, potter's wheel, smelter, tree planter's pot - you will need set of ingredients you will not achieve for all your gameplay.

So, i've just looked to potter recipe and i was thinking about, why the hell we are losing matter, when crafting potter clay?
You need 3 pieces of clay, and 1 brick, to make 1 piece of clay.

Make it so, that potter's clay recipe will give more clay, 2 or 3 instead of 1.

[Kaios]

I watched it live and I missed any mention of potter’s clay but why does it need a buff? You think having kilns that go up to and beyond q200 within 3 months is a good thing? Potter’s clay is so lame, it detracts from the value of normal clay and eventually it becomes totally worthless in comparison. I think having stuff to spiral is fine but not every mechanic or in-game natural resource needs to be ruined by some players’ obsession with grinding quality.

[Fostik]

If you don't understand what's wrong with it, and trying to create your own point of view about it - better discuss it in DM or in discord chat first.
"I don't give a fuck and here is my opinion" sounds cool, but what for?

[Kaios]

I asked you why you think it needs a buff. If you're not going to bother explaining then I don't care and you can enjoy having a discussion by yourself. Do you think you do yourself any favours by making a reply like that? Because you don't, fucking socially inept clown.

[Randomovna]

First any noob can build low Qkiln Tarkiln or other things from clay. if noob can build high Qkiln, things from qlay will be cheap and lost their value so amount for create is fine now
Its fine idea to get 2 pieces instead 1 but better make %chance to get second piece
Now lets talk about formula i will use numbers what i know on this moment if you know higher correct me and we calculate again
so highQ kiln i know is 275now we took this formula http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Potter%27s_Clay
so just for example we try make 275potter clay with use 275Q bone kiln
275Qpotter*4=1100
1100-300Qwheel=800
800/3=266 266*4=1066
1066-275Qboneclay because we have 275Qkiln - 60Qacre - 80Qgray=651Qbrick
http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Brick
2*275=550
550+400Q branch +275Q kiln =1225/4=306Q brick we could get now
now we took what we need to get 651Q brick
651*4=2604
2604-275Qkiln-400Qbranch=1929
1929/2=964Qclay we need
now we took what we need to get 964Q clay
http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Bone_Clay
964*3=2892
2892-Q300 Feldspar-80QFine clay=2512bone ash we need
now we took what we need to get 2512 bone ash haha no we dont fuck you that formula fucking cancer go kill yourself

[Fostik]

fucking socially inept clown.

Lady, don't be so harsh.
This thread is for ideas of critique, if you're not in the topic about potter clay, no need to post here, ty.

[Kaios]

then discuss or shut the fuck up you can reply to randomovna post and report mine for all I care I'm so tired of these dumbass replies whenever I try to discuss a topic

[Fostik]

Okay, doing it for ladies, because we already discussed everything with Randomnovna in discord.

The fact, that you already have bone clay, and need to use it for potter's clay - creates a little useless of doing next step of craft - potter clay.
Potter clay is worthless, because theoretically bone clay (as ingredient) will always be higher than potter clay. (despite you will have ultra high quality potter's wheel, 2 times more q than your bone clay, and it will happen sometime, after 6+ month of q raising)
Potter clay will still require bone clay, and it means that recipe is expensive, without potter's wheel it is useless to craft, and this potter's wheel influence doesn't justify it's expensiveness.
If, for example, potter clay will require fine clay instead of bone clay - it will be more balanced.

So, i think as there are no active trading for potter's clay on local markets(that means people dont use it) - devs should check balance of it.

[Zentetsuken]

I wonder if it could be fixed or balanced by simply making it so an object remembers the exact amount of potters clay or potters clay bricks it was crafted with and gives a small scaling bonus to fuel quality as a result.

[KitsuneG]

My thoughts: with Randomovna calculations we see that even in halfyear world there is no quality rising for potters clay - and with further upgrades of potter wheel q will rise pretty bad, but the idea of craft more than 1 per craft is great - it make sense to grind hiqh q bone clay and then duplicate it with potter.

Brilliant suggestion.