"Push" rebalance/fix

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"Push" rebalance/fix

Postby maze » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:04 am

to prevent day one alt blocking/ griefing (standing around a player and the player's fire)
or the large alt blocking of areas.

-Allow anyone to push with no skills needed.
-Reduce it's crime to foolery (no scent, but still can't be commit on claims)

This would allow people to push alts away from their fire to get free. (or force the enemy to use more alts...2 rows of alts!)
This wont stop people from alt blocking claims for 8 hours. (8 alts around the claim...can't push them since they technicality can't back up 1 block)
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Re: "Push" rebalance/fix

Postby Zajmer » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:21 am

enjoy building first claim if you want to allow them pushing away freely
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Re: "Push" rebalance/fix

Postby maze » Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:38 pm

Zajmer wrote:enjoy building first claim if you want to allow them pushing away freely

push does not push people away from objects. unless something was changed.

also this is a cheese to protect claims and should be addressed rather then needed. It's abused for a good month into the game.
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Re: "Push" rebalance/fix

Postby vatas » Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:23 pm

I think the early claims are something that should be looked at. How do we make sure that people can make claims for their bases but not spam troll claims everywhere?
Haven and Hearth Wiki (Maintained by volunteers - test/verify when practical. Forum thread

Basic Claim Safety (And what you’re doing wrong
TL:;DR: Build a Palisade with only Visitor gates.)

Combat Guide (Overview, PVE, PVP) (Includes how to escape/minimize risk of getting killed.)
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Re: "Push" rebalance/fix

Postby jorb » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:30 pm

Will look at it, I guess.
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Re: "Push" rebalance/fix

Postby jorb » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:51 pm

Decided against this. Present crime is assault, which is a non-issue, and the only skill required is The Will to Power, which is a non-issue.
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Re: "Push" rebalance/fix

Postby wonder-ass » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:52 am

jorb wrote:Decided against this. Present crime is assault, which is a non-issue, and the only skill required is The Will to Power, which is a non-issue.


could you make the range of push bigger? you have to be unreasonably close to the target to push them.
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Re: "Push" rebalance/fix

Postby MarcusXDead » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:56 pm

wonder-ass wrote:
jorb wrote:Decided against this. Present crime is assault, which is a non-issue, and the only skill required is The Will to Power, which is a non-issue.


could you make the range of push bigger? you have to be unreasonably close to the target to push them.

The whole point of the push is to move griefers/afk people that are blocking paths. I don't see why does it need larger range exept for more abuse in pvp. If we're talking about rows of alts blocking the path, it's not really a solution. If we're talking about self defense on not-yet-claimed base I can see people doing push-alts to grief, as both owner of the base and alts run out of stamina (and health) equally fast, trying to push their way through and pushing owner back when several grief alts are involved.
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Re: "Push" rebalance/fix

Postby wonder-ass » Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:32 pm

so its not dogshit in pvp and can actually be used. im like the only one using it in pvp and even im failing at it because the range is GAY.
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Re: "Push" rebalance/fix

Postby MarcusXDead » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:07 am

wonder-ass wrote:so its not dogshit in pvp and can actually be used. im like the only one using it in pvp and even im failing at it because the range is GAY.

And it's not supposed to be used in it?
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