New Freshwater Flora & Fauna Ideas

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New Freshwater Flora & Fauna Ideas

Postby Zentetsuken » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:06 pm

Ocean waters are filled with fun junk, dangerous animals, beaches are loaded with curio and foragables.
In comparison fresh waters seem lonely, barren and free of danger, especially the deep water. There are literally no aggressive animals that can catch you in water.

Freshwater Forageables

Water Chestnut - (shallow)

A simple plant with edible corms and leafs, could be our first wild tuber alternative.
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Minnows - (deep or shallow)

Tiny minnows mate and swim in massive groups and often breach water and jump around. You could literally collect them with a hand or bucket if you came across a school of them. Could be fun to see little animated patches of minnows that are harvestable in a bucket, maybe a type of energy food, a bait alternative, a non-fishable type of fish?
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Floating Seaweed Pile - (deep or shallow)

Big hunks of floating seaweed like spirulina. Since floating seaweed could be gross and bad, maybe it can be "raided" for a chance to harvest something edible, like the seaweed itself, or maybe some sea snails and mussels?
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Freshwater Threats

SMALL BOIS

There are SO many fish in this game, why not add a few that are dangerous? Fishing is practically an AFK snorefest, maybe the addition of a rare nasty fish getting on the line could be fun?

Imagine like, on rare occasion the fishing progress is halted and some splashing animation/sound is played to indicate that you spawned a mean fish. These could also spawn naturally as well and be aggressive or passive-until agrod type animals.

Needlefish?
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Freshwater Barracuda?
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Piranha?
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Stonefish? (BONUS - VENOMOUS!!!!)
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THINK OF THE NEW, FUN ENDLESS WOUND POTENTIALS!!!!!!!

BIG BOIS


Okay, so on land we have lots of big fun animals that can fuck us up, in caves, in cave water, in oceans we have the same.
How about a big fresh water fuckdaddy that is actually a legitimate threat? Maybe it's like a mammoth or conch in that it's mostly passive and super rare, but image like a giant super angry turtle motherfucker floating around in a big deep lake!!!

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We NEED giant scary turtles tbh. Imagine the fun behaviour mechanics, like having it not go in to shallow or on land, go underwater and move around with some bubble animation and pop up, it could damage the fuck out of boats but be pretty slow and have a fuckton of armour.

MAXIMUM FUN!!!

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WOUNDS!!!

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EXCITING!!!


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Re: New Freshwater Flora & Fauna Ideas

Postby linkfanpc » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:21 pm

+1 to everything, big boi turtles plz.
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Re: New Freshwater Flora & Fauna Ideas

Postby MagicManICT » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:30 pm

Love the thread, love the effort you put into it.

If bait fish like minnows get added, we should get some sort of seine net for catching them. could get minnows, shad*, crawdads*, and some of the other smaller "pan" fish--perch, roach to name a couple--in a young growth stage. (I know we used to catch a lot of our fishing bait naturally, and we had to be very careful picking out what we used as getting caught with young game fish in a bait bucket is a huge fine in my locale.)

*I know some of these are native to American waters only. Just there as an example.
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Re: New Freshwater Flora & Fauna Ideas

Postby sabinati » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:32 am

isn't there already a seaweed foraged in both fresh and saltwater
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Re: New Freshwater Flora & Fauna Ideas

Postby Zentetsuken » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:46 am

sabinati wrote:isn't there already a seaweed foraged in both fresh and saltwater


yeah, kelp, which is straight up edible or used as leaf, but there are like 50 birds, 50 flowers, multiple clams and 100 fish, 2 or even 3 types of seaweeds sounds pretty fun, especially since "seaweed pile" is mechanically different, it can even contain kelp as well
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Re: New Freshwater Flora & Fauna Ideas

Postby iamahh » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:48 am

more wounds for the sprucecap?
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Re: New Freshwater Flora & Fauna Ideas

Postby borka » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:39 am

i heard rumors cometswarms coming in every 15 minutes on deep ocean tiles now ... if one hits you 10.000 HP gone at once besides your ship ... :P
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Re: New Freshwater Flora & Fauna Ideas

Postby dorag » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:00 am

Seems like a good idea but one major problem is it would maek fishing creedo even more hated
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Re: New Freshwater Flora & Fauna Ideas

Postby Oddity » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:25 am

I support these ideas (except wounds)
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Re: New Freshwater Flora & Fauna Ideas

Postby Zentetsuken » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:51 pm

dorag wrote:Seems like a good idea but one major problem is it would maek fishing creedo even more hated


Fishing credo is cancer because fishing is boring and finding fish nodes is cancer.
Adding a bit of excitement to fishing shouldn't change the semantics of how bad getting the credo is, it will just make in onpar with any other credo. We are meant to kill stuff and deal with fighting in the other starter credos, so having to run from a few killer fish shouldn't be a big deal.
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