Treecutting and energy

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Treecutting and energy

Postby Procne » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:36 pm

It feels like energy is drained so quickly during treecutting. I don't know if it has changed since the last world, but 320% energy cost (with metal axe, when drinking water) for a tree cut seems quite severe.
I never liked making labour alts, as I always thought it's a cheesy way around a mechanic, but now I'm considering it. I wanted to clear a small area, and after cutting several trees I was already starving.

Now, I wouldn't mind it if eating to regen energy didn't ruin hunger bar at the same time. But it does.

Is that intended?
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Re: Treecutting and energy

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:50 pm

Procne wrote:Now, I wouldn't mind it if eating to regen energy didn't ruin hunger bar at the same time. But it does.

The higher the satiation for a food type, it fills proportionally less hunger. It was a change during last world. Stick to one food type for energy. Mushroom skewer thing is pretty easy to source no matter where you are.

Do agree with you, though. Labor sucks way too much energy and time out of the game.
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Re: Treecutting and energy

Postby Procne » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:58 pm

MagicManICT wrote:
Procne wrote:Now, I wouldn't mind it if eating to regen energy didn't ruin hunger bar at the same time. But it does.

The higher the satiation for a food type, it fills proportionally less hunger. It was a change during last world. Stick to one food type for energy. Mushroom skewer thing is pretty easy to source no matter where you are.

Do agree with you, though. Labor sucks way too much energy and time out of the game.


I don't mind time, and I don't mind making energy food. In fact I do enjoy the latter. But the fact that labour would ruin my hunger bar was annoying to me.

The change you mentioned, sounds great, though. I did read the patch notes, but it seems I misunderstood them. Will check now, If I can just spam fruitroasts at no cost to hunger then those trees won't know what hit them.

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Re: Treecutting and energy

Postby Procne » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:04 pm

It seems to work, but after 60% the satiation goes up really slowly. I'm at 70% atm, so it seems I will lose only 30% of original hunger, but that's still a lot if someone eats a lot to regenerate energy
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Re: Treecutting and energy

Postby Sevenless » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:28 pm

The key is you have to eat exactly the same recipe due to how the new satiations work. Eating different types of roast meat are all different satiations for example.

May or may not have screwed that up myself and trashed a hunger bar early this world that way >.>
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Re: Treecutting and energy

Postby dorag » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:34 pm

Procne wrote:It feels like energy is drained so quickly during treecutting. I don't know if it has changed since the last world, but 320% energy cost (with metal axe, when drinking water) for a tree cut seems quite severe.
I never liked making labour alts, as I always thought it's a cheesy way around a mechanic, but now I'm considering it. I wanted to clear a small area, and after cutting several trees I was already starving.

Now, I wouldn't mind it if eating to regen energy didn't ruin hunger bar at the same time. But it does.

Is that intended?

You're playing the game wrong you are only supposed to cut down trees with alts
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Re: Treecutting and energy

Postby Procne » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:40 pm

Sevenless wrote:The key is you have to eat exactly the same recipe due to how the new satiations work. Eating different types of roast meat are all different satiations for example.

May or may not have screwed that up myself and trashed a hunger bar early this world that way >.>


Yes, I am eating the same food - fruitroast. Hunger bar already went up by 20% and my satiation is now 78%
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Re: Treecutting and energy

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:39 am

"Fruitroast," "Nutjerky" is all the same no matter the recipe used. Roasted meat is "Roasted squirrel," "roasted boar" etc.

dorag wrote:You're playing the game wrong you are only supposed to cut down trees with alts

Once you can get the good axes, it's not as terrible, but using even a metal axe, and I still resorted to this. I ended up becoming the tree farmer last world, and I went on a 3 hour search for an oak tree just so I could bring home one log to make a few proper axes. Was still too much work for two characters and made a third, and that was a small tree farm.
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Re: Treecutting and energy

Postby Burinn » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:41 am

MagicManICT wrote:"Fruitroast," "Nutjerky" is all the same no matter the recipe used. Roasted meat is "Roasted squirrel," "roasted boar" etc.

dorag wrote:You're playing the game wrong you are only supposed to cut down trees with alts

Once you can get the good axes, it's not as terrible, but using even a metal axe, and I still resorted to this. I ended up becoming the tree farmer last world, and I went on a 3 hour search for an oak tree just so I could bring home one log to make a few proper axes. Was still too much work for two characters and made a third, and that was a small tree farm.


I don't know if it's anecdotal, but finding a regular oak tree in the past three worlds has been an absolute nightmare.
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Re: Treecutting and energy

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:52 am

Burinn wrote:I don't know if it's anecdotal, but finding a regular oak tree in the past three worlds has been an absolute nightmare.

Blame jorb for adding that axe to the game.

(Glad I'm not the only one that has had problems.)
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