Hello Jorb and Loftar remove subtoken trading

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Hello Jorb and Loftar remove subtoken trading

Postby Stealthkibbler » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:10 pm

i want to see Jorbtar remove the ability to trade subtokens, have all non-stored tokens go to the hearth of the last person that touched them and make it so you can only renew them from the hearth and not take them out as physical objects.

Do this for about 2-4 worlds or however long it takes for the blackmarket stashes of subtokens to run dry, would be pretty funny imo.
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Re: Hello Jorb and Loftar remove subtoken trading

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:13 pm

lmao
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Re: Hello Jorb and Loftar remove subtoken trading

Postby Stealthkibbler » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:15 pm

SnuggleSnail wrote:lmao

I agree.
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Re: Hello Jorb and Loftar remove subtoken trading

Postby Fostik » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:36 pm

Stealthkibbler wrote:i want to see Jorbtar remove the ability to trade subtokens, have all non-stored tokens go to the hearth of the last person that touched them and make it so you can only renew them from the hearth and not take them out as physical objects.

Do this for about 2-4 worlds or however long it takes for the blackmarket stashes of subtokens to run dry, would be pretty funny imo.


They were created to represent premium subscription as item to be able to trade it.
If remove trading, what is the purpose of having them at all?
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Re: Hello Jorb and Loftar remove subtoken trading

Postby shubla » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:40 pm

Fostik wrote:
Stealthkibbler wrote:i want to see Jorbtar remove the ability to trade subtokens, have all non-stored tokens go to the hearth of the last person that touched them and make it so you can only renew them from the hearth and not take them out as physical objects.

Do this for about 2-4 worlds or however long it takes for the blackmarket stashes of subtokens to run dry, would be pretty funny imo.


They were created to represent premium subscription as item to be able to trade it.
If remove trading, what is the purpose of having them at all?

They could be used to give sub still, like by rightclicking player with it, but the item itself should not be able to be traded between players.

I think that it is an interesting experiment, would be cool to see what happens to trade if they were just completely removed. Would it just be replaced with rmt or would something else be traded.
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Re: Hello Jorb and Loftar remove subtoken trading

Postby Zentetsuken » Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:08 pm

The issue here is that there are a lot of people who likely have enough tokens to play subbed for the next 20-40 years.
Which, as retarded as that is, makes the entire idea arguably unfair.

That being said, having a 2nd server where subtokens simply don't exist and cannot even be used as a personal subscription method would be something I would absolutely play on.

Knowing that PVPers and realm villages are largely filled with accounts that are stacked with tokens would lead one to believe that such a server may even be more of a noob friendly, pvp-less experience.
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Re: Hello Jorb and Loftar remove subtoken trading

Postby Zbyx » Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:47 pm

This idea would hurt the game developers and the future of this game. Terrible idea.

I doubt that this project brings a ton of money (otherwise i think we would have a better/new server or more people working on it)
By removing sub token trading i think that the revenue the game brings would be cut by half or even more so it could be either not worth to keep the game running or developers would need to find additional job => less time for HnH developing.

Having subtokens doesnt really give you any economy advantage or better ability to fight (at least not directly but could be used ofc to pay people "salary" to get stuff done). At best it allows you to catch up if people are willing to trade with you anything of value for it (but they dont have to and most likely wont give you best stuff for it)
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Re: Hello Jorb and Loftar remove subtoken trading

Postby Stealthkibbler » Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:13 pm

Zbyx wrote:Having subtokens doesnt really give you any economy advantage or better ability to fight (at least not directly but could be used ofc to pay people "salary" to get stuff done). At best it allows you to catch up if people are willing to trade with you anything of value for it (but they dont have to and most likely wont give you best stuff for it)


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Re: Hello Jorb and Loftar remove subtoken trading

Postby Archiplex » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:22 pm

don't need to remove trading them, just remove being able to store them back into your hearthfire, and have everyone be forced to use all of their tokens before the next wipe.

lets people whale, conserves the economy between worlds so that 90% of everything doesn't cost sub tokens, removes over-saturation of subtokens in the economy, kills rich people.

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Re: Hello Jorb and Loftar remove subtoken trading

Postby Zbyx » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:35 pm

Archiplex wrote:don't need to remove trading them, just remove being able to store them back into your hearthfire, and have everyone be forced to use all of their tokens before the next wipe.

lets people whale, conserves the economy between worlds so that 90% of everything doesn't cost sub tokens, removes over-saturation of subtokens in the economy, kills rich people.

all lovely things.


Tokens can be put pack into hearth fire? wow. Possibility to do so should be removed immediately! o.o
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