Please unfuck food/recipes

[SnuggleSnail]

I fucking hate that we have a literal database and several client features just to decipher this autistic 1,000,000,000 recipes system. Literally anything where I can just hover over the tooltips and know what the fuck the recipe gives would be better. Needing to test every recipe in the game 1000000 times every world just to figure out what's good and then feeling bad about it anyway because you don't know if your strategy is right is fucking dogshit.

And that's coming from one of your more autistic longterm players. It must be fucking awful for plebs wasting hours&hours&hours of their life to get awful returns.

I think the simplest solution if you want to keep something similarish to the system is for every recipe to have baseline stats that never change, and each meat/spice/whatever adds a static amount of +FEPS in the same way to every recipe.

EX:
meatpie's stats might be 10 con 10 str
all pork recipes add 3 str
all pepper adds +10% total base
all wheat flour always adds 2 agi

so you would know for sure that a wheat/pork/pepper Mpie would give 14.3 str 12.2 agi @ Q10 without autistic spreadsheeting for two years and 200 hours of wanting to kill yourself and a bunch of fucking around in excel/database bullshit

[DDDsDD999]

Hermits eating garbage, wasting their time, and staying weak is funny. I can only infer the obfuscation of the system is intended to achieve the goal of frustrating the hermit, which I find incredibly based.

If anything, fuck it up even more. Really emphasize some random shit like hedgehog meat specifically smoked with fir gets a 10000% multiplier if eaten after a stoat marrow roast. Stat gain being locked behind tribal knowledge found through database collection and management is the ideal form of haven.

[HasseKebab]

agreed with op tbh

[sMartins]

Math defeated=good

[SnuggleSnail]

Math defeated=good

It's not even math, TBH. Nobody has figured out the formula, AFAIK. It's literally just autistic, unfun data-entry. The shit people pay third worlders $5/hour for on upwork.

[TheServant]

I think that the genius of jorbtar in making a great game is almost intrisic with several issues it has... not sure...

[Audiosmurf]

I think having to figure out how to be a good cook is Interesting Gameplay, experimentation and tribal knowledge is fun

[TheServant]

I think having to figure out how to be a good cook is Interesting Gameplay, experimentation and tribal knowledge is fun

Yeah, its good stuff. Its just not optimal to tryhards since they get "pleasure" in silly ways. seems unhealthy to life in general tho

[SnuggleSnail]

The average player does not enjoy feeling like their time is being wasted. This is not a tryhard vs. casual thing.

I'm fine with alchemy being a side thing that has autistic discovery/data entry, but you should not need a 3 year degree in food science to figure out the most basic. fundamental methods of improving your character. It's too integral to every aspect of the game to be overly complicated for no reason.

[Sevenless]

With public food websites like shubla's stuff, hermits can eat decent food with a minor amount of effort. It already has plenty enough for hermits to get meaningful stat gains. The truly insane foods are usually locked behind ingredients they'll never get anyway.

I dunno, I enjoy experimenting and publicly updating the vatsul stuff for people. The food system has an element of discovery and excitement when you find actual good stuff. Shouldn't surprise anyone who knows me though, and I'm only speaking for myself.