Stone Towers are Far Too Expensive Now

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Stone Towers are Far Too Expensive Now

Postby Vigilance » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:03 am

There is no reality I am willing to build a stone tower currently with them costing 10 steel bars. I am not spending two bars shy of a B12 on village infrastructure when I can just spam great halls or stone mansions to accomplish my intended goal instead.

I think as it stands you will only see towers in hard-larp villages or very deep-world where there are copious amounts of bad steel floating around, especially in conjunction with the fact that making steel pre-L5/L6 is pretty cringe.

Please consider making towers accessible for normal human beings again by either reverting the steel in their recipe or making it a more reasonable quantity, maybe two steel bars if you're insisting on the progression gate.
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Re: Stone Towers are Far Too Expensive Now

Postby popatria » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:33 am

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Re: Stone Towers are Far Too Expensive Now

Postby SnuggleSnail » Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:10 am

I really love a lot of the new time gating mechanics that keep everybody closer together technology-wise. Not having to nolife that hard, and our opponents being a bit closer to us has been very fun this world.

That said, some of the stuff like steel towers just feel like gates for the sake of having gates, which isn't really fun. If somebody wants an early tower why stop them?
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Re: Stone Towers are Far Too Expensive Now

Postby Vraatjuh » Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:30 am

Agreed. Same with a great hall which takes 20 hardened leather. That's 40 wax that I am supposed to pump into my mineholes.

I just want to larp in my little shithole with a great hall, ffs.
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Re: Stone Towers are Far Too Expensive Now

Postby Liss12 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:50 am

Not to mention how ugly the tower is, at least is was useful storage structure, now there are 0 reasons to build one.
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Re: Stone Towers are Far Too Expensive Now

Postby WowGain » Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:16 am

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Re: Stone Towers are Far Too Expensive Now

Postby Sevenless » Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:36 am

I hate towers, and I love that they aren't viable on a personal, spiteful, level.

But yeah, way too expensive. 5 wrought maybe?
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Re: Stone Towers are Far Too Expensive Now

Postby Zentetsuken » Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:26 pm

towers are a gift to factions and nobody else
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Re: Stone Towers are Far Too Expensive Now

Postby Sevenless » Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:49 pm

Zentetsuken wrote:towers are a gift to factions and nobody else


Sure but like, it's not a massive enough gift that it's a problem for game balancing. It's not exactly the end of the world to dig out more space and use mansions instead.
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Re: Stone Towers are Far Too Expensive Now

Postby Vigilance » Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:10 pm

Sevenless wrote:
Zentetsuken wrote:towers are a gift to factions and nobody else


Sure but like, it's not a massive enough gift that it's a problem for game balancing. It's not exactly the end of the world to dig out more space and use mansions instead.

This is an utterly terrible take. What is the purpose of having an entire structure in the game that is functionally locked behind bot-fed infrastructure? Yeah, it's very viable to just opt for mansions, yeah it's viable to opt for great halls, but at this point I'm pretty sure I will never build a tower unless it is literally impossible to fit another structure in the space.
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