Questing quality boost => Rarer and global

[Sevenless]

Remove local boosts in favour of global ones, and only reward Q boosts to wandering sage characters. Obviously we'd also need to make the Q boosting rarer than it is now as well.

Minor change, interesting and fair long term impact. Give deep worlders something to work together on, and a source of truly infinite quality grind.

[linkfanpc]

definitely love the idea of certain quality grinds being global, long term and community driven. you could just make them 0.1q increases if it's too powerful. could even be cool to track it and somehow make a leaderboard for biggest contributors. +1

[SnuggleSnail]

That feels like an kindof bad incentive structure. You expect me to do [most boring activity in the game] to unlock the ability for everybody to cycle their anvil? If anything that's a disadvantage for me, since I just spent all my time questing instead of cycling an anvil, unlike everybody else. Free rider problem and all that.

I feel like you're forgetting that there has never been a person who enjoyed questing. It has only ever been done begrudgingly for rewards. I'm ready to be proven wrong, but if there are no rewards there are no questers. If there are rewards I will shit my pants in anger and mail them to Jorbtar's house, because like everybody else I do not want to feel obligated to quest.

[Dawidio123]

That feels like an kindof bad incentive structure. You expect me to do [most boring activity in the game] to unlock the ability for everybody to cycle their anvil? If anything that's a disadvantage for me, since I just spent all my time questing instead of cycling an anvil, unlike everybody else. Free rider problem and all that.

I feel like you're forgetting that there has never been a person who enjoyed questing. It has only ever been done begrudgingly for rewards. I'm ready to be proven wrong, but if there are no rewards there are no questers. If there are rewards I will shit my pants in anger and mail them to Jorbtar's house, because like everybody else I do not want to feel obligated to quest.

Sure, but consider the following, fuck those people who enjoy doing it. If they want to do it make it upgrade for everyone, if not then oh well. I'd prefer for the quality increase to be completely removed but if the alternative is this or it not being removed i pick this tbh.

[Sevenless]

I feel like you're forgetting that there has never been a person who enjoyed questing.

I like questing actually. Most people who do are hermits or small villagers. I do not want anyone to be forced to quest.

You expect me to do [most boring activity in the game] to unlock the ability for everybody to cycle their anvil?

No I don't expect you do to this. You don't need to. This is only for people who want to do it. That's why it's completely global, factions are not forced to do anything. You lose nothing by choosing not to participate in the communal grind.


If anything, you can see this as "No one can abuse this mechanic anymore, and it has now become 100% optional"

[Fostik]

It could be done in weighting/voting system, e.g. once in a week there will be +1 quality globally or per continent with several variations to be taken.
Based on actions of players on this global quest the buff will be determined

And I’d like emphasize it’s not about asking hermits to click for dandelion q +1, but do some effort, skill and stats demanding actions to put weight on decision

[Hingle_McCringle]

Remove local boosts, and only reward Q boosts to wandering sage characters. Obviously we'd also need to make the Q boosting rarer than it is now as well.

Minor change, interesting and fair long term impact. Give deep worlders something to work together on, and a source of truly infinite quality grind.

How is this something to work on together if the Q boost only applies to a character with wandering sage? or is the idea that any character with Wandering Sage will see the boost?

[animary]

Quest rewards should scale with the difficulty of getting them. That gilding leaf good for one perc point is fine for a starting player who only had to walk a short distance to get it. But it is not fitting for an hour on horseback carrying a rock to a tree. Perhaps make such boosts a percentage rather than set points; for example a 10% boost to perc would be equally beneficial to everyone.

Also, do not allow claims to be built over quest givers.

Have quests taking different items to one quest giver. Such as no more than once a day taking a different type of rock to a boulder up in the mountains, ten different rocks gets a bonus reward, 20 another bonus; there could be special rewards for certain rare rocks (such as could only be obtained through deep mining).

There could be sequential quests - take an item to a quest giver, get a small reward and an item you must take to another quest giver, this could continue through many quest givers til the last, where you get a reward befitting the entire quest. Some stages could have time limits, delivery within 24 hours, or maybe delayed delivery - no sooner than 48 hours, miss a delivery and must start the entire sequence again.

[Sevenless]

Remove local boosts, and only reward Q boosts to wandering sage characters. Obviously we'd also need to make the Q boosting rarer than it is now as well.

Minor change, interesting and fair long term impact. Give deep worlders something to work together on, and a source of truly infinite quality grind.

How is this something to work on together if the Q boost only applies to a character with wandering sage? or is the idea that any character with Wandering Sage will see the boost?

People who want to grind quality have to complete the wandering sage credo. Wandering sages now become eligible to receive global quality boosts as a quest reward. Thinking about it, probably too hardass of a requirement though if the target audience is hermits and casuals.

Quest rewards should scale with the difficulty of getting them. That gilding leaf good for one perc point is fine for a starting player who only had to walk a short distance to get it. But it is not fitting for an hour on horseback carrying a rock to a tree. Perhaps make such boosts a percentage rather than set points; for example a 10% boost to perc would be equally beneficial to everyone.

Also, do not allow claims to be built over quest givers.

Have quests taking different items to one quest giver. Such as no more than once a day taking a different type of rock to a boulder up in the mountains, ten different rocks gets a bonus reward, 20 another bonus; there could be special rewards for certain rare rocks (such as could only be obtained through deep mining).

They do scale with difficulty, and difficulty scales with the stats of the characters doing the quest. RNG still has a chunky impact though.

Unclaimed quest givers are vulnerable to being killed. I've had quest givers killed far more often than walled off and inaccessible.

[DDDsDD999]

People who want to grind quality have to complete the wandering sage credo.

And for that reason, I'm out.