Controversial Names / Naming

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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby Skorm » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:27 am

sieffre wrote:yeah the racism in this community is fuckin atrocious, and you can shrug it off as "oh it's just people lookin for a reaction" but it still stems from people actually bein, you know, racist. and it still does actual harm to real-life people

BangPow wrote:Jorbtar doesn't have the time or means to babysit racial bigotry

create a script that blocks any slurs from being entered into the typeboxes of trails and claims and the like. of course people will get creative to get around such things, but it's a start

it's not a start when it fixes nothing, you can't just band aid things over and over and expect a decent outcome, things like these will happen no matter what and you'd give them further responsibility to "deal" with every kind of issue of this nature.
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby sieffre » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:37 am

Skorm wrote:it's not a start when it fixes nothing, you can't just band aid things over and over and expect a decent outcome, things like these will happen no matter what and you'd give them further responsibility to "deal" with every kind of issue of this nature.

it will stop some
bans for those that do it anyway would stop even more
it just comes down to how much jorb & loftar actually care, i guess
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby whydidyoudothis » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:55 am

and so it begins.... you did this to yourself, never forget that.
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby An_Infinity_of_War » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:29 am

Why would this even be an issue? If people's "feelings" are so easily hurt by words that they need to censor people, instead of kill them in game like normal people, then I think we found a bigger issue than the so called "racists". You must not have read all of the stone carvings in the other world. :lol:

sabinati wrote:Really, you want them to spend time on censorship instead of game development? There are literally 2 (two) guys making this game. If you don't like it, destroy it! Murder the person who made it! Developers are not responsible for player behavior!


You can't reason with these "muh feelings!" cucks. We can just burn them. Burn all of them. Burn them until there are ash piles bigger than sand dunes.

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Call the police.


*feelings cuck: -dials 911-
*911: What is your emergency?
*feelings cuck: muh feelings have been hurt!
*911: Go jump off a building then.
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby ApocalypsePlease » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:42 am

The question you're trying to ask has too much behind it to provide a concise and meaningful answer.
Simply put this game isn't for everyone, and if you try to make it for everyone it would cease to be the work of art that it is.

If you want to play an MMO that has censorship, there are plenty out there to choose from. This particular game does not happen to be one of them, and it does not need to be.
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby Ants » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:53 am

ApocalypsePlease wrote:The question you're trying to ask has too much behind it to provide a concise and meaningful answer.
Simply put this game isn't for everyone, and if you try to make it for everyone it would cease to be the work of art that it is.

If you want to play an MMO that has censorship, there are plenty out there to choose from. This particular game does not happen to be one of them, and it does not need to be.


It isn't art anymore. It's not a social experiment. It's a business, and it ought to be treated like one. We can't look at this game the same way we looked at the old H&H.
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby NOOBY93 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:58 am

wow are you for real?

If people wanna say kill niggers they're gonna find a way to say kill niggers, the only way to enforce "kill niggers" not being said is if jorb or loftar either watch the game 24/7 on every spot on the map or hire people to do that, which they said before that they won't do - hire ingame mods.

And wtf are the rest of you talking about? "Art"? "Social experiment"? it's literally a game
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby rezal » Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:02 pm

Oh wow I thought I was on tumblr for a moment while reading the OP

Maybe you should grow a pair and stop getting offended by things that people say in online games and just ignore it?
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby ApocalypsePlease » Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:18 pm

Ants wrote:It isn't art anymore. It's not a social experiment. It's a business, and it ought to be treated like one. We can't look at this game the same way we looked at the old H&H.

I'm not sure I fully understand how the introduction of money into the system has implications that things have to change. We might as well be playing a different game then.

Haven and Hearth is known for the devs' "hands off" approach to in game moderation, if this is the draw and appeal to the game why should it be crutched? Because someone spent their money on the internet before knowing the committment they got themselves into? It's not as if gameplay affecting content is barred behind a paywall, the only things you can pay for are time and cosmetics.

There is no reason why the devs should be at the supporters beck and call unless their intentions are to cater that crowd. Not sure about you but that doesn't sound like Jorb and Loftar to me. If they disagree they will change, but if they agree to this sentiment then nothing will change because it does not need to. Unless there are legal reasons that motivate change, Haven does not need to change.
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Re: Controversial Names / Naming

Postby MrBober » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:44 pm

Are you guys seriously defending those racist and offensive people? I'm fairly sure it's not that hard to add a script to filter the name creation, which would already reduce the amount of offensive names out there.

Saying "They are only 2 people" is no excuse. If they don't have time for it, they should get more staff involved. They are pushing players to pay for the game (because let's face it, the free option is more like a "trial" than a real option), now they have to give a certain level of service to those paying customers.

I'm tired of reading about how they don't have time to do this and that. If you are too busy, get someone who will do it for you. And since now you are asking money for it, pay the dude (a % of your revenue, so you can't say you don't make enough.. gain 0, pay 0).
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