Trade or the lack thereof

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Re: Trade or the lack thereof

Postby NineWorlds » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:41 pm

Redlaw wrote:
NineWorlds wrote:My idea is quite a weird one.

Adding Birds, to send supplies with a hearth fire code and a chosen list of items to receive/give, both players must initiate an acceptance to send out / receive the bird and the items.

Once the bird is sent the bird can then become over powered, this way it can stop scammers, this way who ever the bird was sent too, must return the bird within a 24hour time span with the correct list, or the bird will attack the player and take any items in their inventory and study.

I think players who are initiated in the trade should not be allowed to log out to also stop scamming during the cool down until the bird has been sent back.

There should be relatively no draw backs to this, in my eyes this is how it could work.

- Player 1 ( owner of bird ) initiates trade with Player 2.
- Both players must prepare a wicker basket, or other small item, the bird can carry. ( could have various bird types but I will generically pick a Falcon as the desired Bird since they are quite large for an average bird )
- both players then prepare the trade menu and can see the items being placed into trade, once items are placed in, both players accept and the bird flys to Player 2 location.
- Flying time depends on the bird type, and inventory of items but should exceed no longer then 6 hours.
- Once Player 1's bird lands to trade with player 2, player 2 has 24 hours to send back the requested items or player 1s bird will attack player 2.
- If player 2 is attacked they cannot fight back and will automatically be knocked out, all items on players body and study will be taken and given to player 1 in compensation for scamming.
- any damage dealt by bird will leave permanent health lost for attempting to violate a trade.

- If player 2 does hand over the items, player 2 may send the bird back to player 1, and the trade ends once player 1 receives the bird.


This is a weird trading method, but i believe it would work for those who can capture birds, and use them as a courier. Although not everyone should be able to capture birds, they should have a pretty high demand in stats to be able too do so.


hmm this sounds like it can be used to just kill people at long distance realy.... Trade with the person once get a good trade... send it back and not tell them what they need to send back (or of the list is shown make it so its something they cant get in that time). ya.... killing with out lifting a finger.


No it cannot work that way, i stated the way this method cannot really pose a flaw is that, both Players can see the items being set up for trade. If you do not have items, you cannot set the item up for trade, because you cannot put the item in the shipping crate if you do not have it. Both players also MUST accept the trade before the bird can be sent with the container.
even if both players can request to trade items they don't own, the bird should be coded to ONLY accept those items.
And as I stated the player has a 24hour period to return the bird with said items.
24 hour period is for players who must log out, and deal with life. Or it could also be used for the method mentioned above.

The only player who has the ability to scam, is Player 2, ( The player the bird is being sent too ), although if the player does this they risk having a random chance of perm HPP being taken from them and all their items on them taken in compensation for the items promised. I thought of this system with that of bats in mind, as I had been a fresh spawn at one time, and a bat attacked me i suffered a perm wound, that left me with 4hp over all.

- this would work because it promotes free will, yes player 2 can scam player 1, equip useless items and have the bird take it. Although now your hp is gone for good, and you can never heal what Random # the bird dealt to you.
- So if the bird carrier deals 50HHP its gone for good, although their should be a number of what the bird can deal not exceeding <max health or >15.
So this can still promote, free will as I said, your choice to scam, but you can risk your char in the process just as you could if you were to scam an actual player in your presence, im sure he or she if they could would smite you down.
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