Realistic Horse Movement

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Re: Realistic Horse Movement

Postby Potjeh » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:50 pm

I think this would be a nice way to make horses balanced in combat without applying random unintuitive nerfs.
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Re: Realistic Horse Movement

Postby loftar » Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:41 pm

I generally agree that more realistic movement with inertia and whatnot would be a very nice thing, and I've mulled about it quite a lot, but the road there isn't exactly short and immediate.
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Re: Realistic Horse Movement

Postby Ysh » Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:42 pm

loftar wrote:I generally agree that more realistic movement with inertia and whatnot would be a very nice thing, and I've mulled about it quite a lot, but the road there isn't exactly short and immediate.

Whatever ends up with happening, please avoid player moves like boat.
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Re: Realistic Horse Movement

Postby Granger » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:24 pm

loftar wrote:I generally agree that more realistic movement with inertia and whatnot would be a very nice thing, and I've mulled about it quite a lot, but the road there isn't exactly short and immediate.


Your server can extrapolate movement, so why shouldn't you be able to ramp speeds (instead of binary switching between the gears) and limit turnspeed of the horse (or the character, or bull infront of a wagon) depending on current inertia factor (which would come from a lookup table)?
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Re: Realistic Horse Movement

Postby Hasta » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:55 pm

Granger wrote:
loftar wrote:I generally agree that more realistic movement with inertia and whatnot would be a very nice thing, and I've mulled about it quite a lot, but the road there isn't exactly short and immediate.


Your server can extrapolate movement, so why shouldn't you be able to ramp speeds (instead of binary switching between the gears) and limit turnspeed of the horse (or the character, or bull infront of a wagon) depending on current inertia factor (which would come from a lookup table)?


Is there even such thing as "turnspeed" currently ingame?
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Re: Realistic Horse Movement

Postby Ysh » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:22 pm

Hasta wrote:
Granger wrote:
loftar wrote:I generally agree that more realistic movement with inertia and whatnot would be a very nice thing, and I've mulled about it quite a lot, but the road there isn't exactly short and immediate.


Your server can extrapolate movement, so why shouldn't you be able to ramp speeds (instead of binary switching between the gears) and limit turnspeed of the horse (or the character, or bull infront of a wagon) depending on current inertia factor (which would come from a lookup table)?


Is there even such thing as "turnspeed" currently ingame?

I will guess no.
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Re: Realistic Horse Movement

Postby loftar » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:40 pm

Granger wrote:Your server can extrapolate movement, so why shouldn't you be able to ramp speeds (instead of binary switching between the gears) and limit turnspeed of the horse (or the character, or bull infront of a wagon) depending on current inertia factor (which would come from a lookup table)?

Well, the main problem is not so much the movement pattern in and of itself, but rather everything else that builds upon it. Like, for example, if horses had a more advanced pattern of movement that required them to handle inertia, how does that affect such things as right-clicking an herb to pick it? Should the horse implement some sort of "AI" to try and find the optimal pattern of movements to reach that herb, then? Similarly for combat pursuit movement, which would however require a quite different set of movements, and there are a few other movement "goals" as well.

I've likewise thought that it would be far more fun if the main mode of locomotion for rowboats were if one clicked in a direction, and the response was for the character to do one stroke of the oars to propel the boat towards that direction, rather than change direction entirely. But on the other hand, that would still require yet another "AI" for all the various movement goals that are in use in various mechanics here and there.
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