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Re: realm chat

Postby viznew » Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:35 am

azrid wrote:I don't think this handholding is necessary.
Realm chat to whoever is in it. It would still add a lot of fun.
Deception and lies are a feature of realm chat.


dafels wrote:Agreed, I'm all for a realm wide chat.
Just add a tag from what people will be able to distinguish if the player is a realm member or not, maybe color the name green in the chat or something, that would mean that they could be trustable.


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Re: realm chat

Postby Adder1234 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:38 am

I guess it would be more fun to have everyone in the realm in the chat, but I still think the realm members should be marked.
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Re: realm chat

Postby LadyGoo » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:19 pm

Adder1234 wrote:Only reasonably safe way that this could work is if only lawspeakers of villages in the realm could use it. That way it could at least help with relations between villages, but this would stop hermits from taking part in the chat. It may still be abused, it would just make it harder to do so.

Won't work. Making a fake vclaim inside of the kingdom is the easiest thing.


dafels wrote:Agreed, I'm all for a realm wide chat.
Says the member of a faction that impersonates other people in order to raid noobs.
The most recent precedent: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=50728

People are too lazy to differentiate or even understand how the most vital survival mechanics work. I highly doubt that they will even bother to understand the difference in colors (realm members or not) or keep their mouth shut for their own good. There are enough guys that are too naive to trust to everyone as well. Something like a chat available just for everyone to read will serve the community a bad service if not done carefully. If there will be permissions to chat, then the enemy will know who to attach as well, justifying it by saying that the people are trusted and friendly to their rivals.
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Re: realm chat

Postby dafels » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:33 pm

LadyGoo wrote:
dafels wrote:Agreed, I'm all for a realm wide chat.
Says the member of a faction that impersonates other people in order to raid noobs.
The most recent precedent: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=50728


The most recent precedent where we killed a dis ally/friend, good times. Being outplayed by Frosty is nothing to be proud of heh.
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Re: realm chat

Postby LadyGoo » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:10 pm

The thing is, the person was receiving the help. He was not an ally and did not contribute anything.
Do not try to justify your actions, everyone knows about your killspree on the noobs in the north and attacking people that meant to be your friends as well.
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Re: realm chat

Postby Pan_w_okularach » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:07 pm

no one is forcing you to use realm chat if you're so paranoid smh
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Re: realm chat

Postby LadyGoo » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:37 pm

Pan_w_okularach wrote:no one is forcing you to use realm chat if you're so paranoid smh


Someone who is experienced won't do too much chatting or tell the information outloud. However, a lot of people do not know about YOUR ways and that their words might be used against them.
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Re: realm chat

Postby dafels » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:38 pm

LadyGoo wrote:The thing is, the person was receiving the help. He was not an ally and did not contribute anything.

The thing is being a Dis handholder, receiving help from Dis and being friends with them or being associated with them in any way is enough of a reason to kill.

Do not try to justify your actions, everyone knows about your killspree on the noobs in the north and attacking people that meant to be your friends as well.

you know about us better than we do about ourselves I guess since there has been no killing sprees on random noobs in the north grids and us killing our friends is one of the dumbest lies you could make up without having anything to back you up on this claim. More like, we have been clearing the hearthlands from Dis shitters who are exactly killing the noobs (koreans/siberia) whom you appear to be defending with full passion. Take this to Moot if you wish, that is the proper place for ingame politic discussion, feel free to bring up any of the noob killings we are doing there, with actual proof preffered. :)
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Re: realm chat

Postby viznew » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:49 pm

Do not try to justify your actions, everyone knows about your killspree on the noobs in the north and attacking people that meant to be your friends as well.
personally iv been treated better by them then most others and im pretty noob thay have had a few chances to kill me but instead thay gave me this
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and some armor i lost failing in combat with them damn badgers lol
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Re: realm chat

Postby LadyGoo » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:07 pm

Using your logic, you can kill almost everyone on the map. You may keep repeating your mantra, dafels, but the fact is that the implementation of the realm chat as you and your friend/ally from the OP-post suggest does amazingly suit the way your major strategy: impersonate other people, spread the false information, getting inside of the villages.

You guys have not even tried to dispute this, but decided to derail everything to politics and "if you're a paranoiac, don't use it".

There is a kingdom chat. There are permissions that let you invite people to it and decide whether to keep the kingdom chat open or closed for everyone. If you wish to talk with the people in your kingdom so much, you can just post the hs for the access to the realm chat and have your own global one easily. Forcing other kingdoms to have their chat open for everyone to read is just plain retarded and will lead to: People using the kingdom chat to lure the information out about the activity of the people in the kingdom, their hearth secrets, online, lure and trap them and etc. within a small rival territory. If you really wanna talk with everyone, why wouldn't you just make a kingdom which is free for everyone to join and chat?
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